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  • Vacation for some but for some...
    Lisa Lisa
    Vacation for some but for some others..well..it could mean bankruptcy or foreclosure over the next few months. If you squirreled (sp?) money aside for the last few years, then this will be a great vacay every week or 2. But for those that live paycheck to paycheck..this could be the beginning of nightmares. Not everyone is a GS12, 13, or 14. There are many GS5,6, and 7's out there too. There are still Wage Graders out there. For me, I saw the writing on the wall since the 112th Congress and even before under Bush. They were going after me, the federal worker. Last year we got a little too close to a furlough and my gut told me that it would take place this year. My family and I squirreled. We have money in the bank and are putting that tax return in that nest as well. So for those that pay close attention to the black eyes that Congress has wanted to put on federal workers and prepared, good for us. For those that live in a bubble and never thought this would happen..ouch. Luckily my small agency has not had to furlough. Does that mean I will spend that squirrel money? Nope. What used to be a savings for a rainy day is now the "furlough" savings-not money for a replacement car. Now I have a good indicator as to how much I need to keep aside for year after year furlough threats(22 days to be exact). All that being said, I think the worst is yet to come. Out of DoD's many workers furoughed, there will be 10-20% that may foreclose on homes and possibly file bankruptcy. How many fed workers nationwide are being furloughed? Thats what I would like to know.
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  • No, it will not be a vacation
    Just me
    When I see a post that claims a furlough is an unpaid vacation, I cannot help but wonder if the poster has considered recent history. Congressional attacks on federal employees, our pay, and our benefits have a way of becoming the "new normal." Congress tends to go to this metaphorical "well", over and over, until the pitcher is broken. I would, therefore, like to know why many fed workers, nationwide, honestly think that the furloughs MUST stop on October 1. How many could live with a PERMANENT pay cut of twenty percent? As for me, I would find it very difficult. I would also observe that there is a very heated debate (within my agency's senior management cadre) on the impact of furloughs on critical and essential personnel. You know, the people that have, historically, been told (during government shut-downs) that they must come in and work for free until the government can pay them. These are also the people who must work when the government closes for disasters and weather emergencies. The question, at hand, is whether someone who can be furloughed (for budgetary shortfalls, now) can be compelled to come to work during these other types of events. My guess would be NO... once you open this particular door (for convenience) there is no shutting it again (simply because you find it inconvenient.)
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  • Contractors also???
    deployed decoy
    Well a couple years ago on a Friday, I was told not to report Monday if congress did not pass something, EE or not. The COR was told she would go to work. Because the contrators had been paid in some other color money, excuse me, in advance... Excuse me again. But really not a sole gives a darn about us feds. There is a LOT of money to be lost on the contract side this time. Right? They did not print up a Trillion in purple bills again did they?
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  • Do not understand
    Moderate
    Are you a fed or a contractor? Paid in some other color of money? Isn't sole a fish? You mean soul I think. Can never tell with your writing. yes there is alot of money to be lost on the contract side. I believe you collect a government pension also. We employees do not get that. Trillion in purple bills? I cannot make sense of your comments.
    worker
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  • not a contractor
    deployed decoy
    well the term 'color of money' at least in Army, is very common. OMA, OPA, GWOT, it goes on and on. Some agencies specialize in washing that money into one of the others. that way the customer say a BN Commander, can use money that was tagged for one thing by congress. On something different. Say a services contract. sorry on the soul deal. but the fact remains. When Unisys, GE, MANTEC and dozens of other US Companies start to show net losses next quarter. The world will take a look at the US again. Well the world that has the money and still invests in US money. How the contractors got paid in advance in 2010 so they coukd come to work during a total shutdown, I am still sequestered about.
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  • No clue
    Moderate
    I have no idea of what you are writing. You make no sense
    worker
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  • Vacation?
    jst
    You are absolutely correct! Another thing to remember is this. If you have a security clearance and you file bankruptcy or default on Student Loans etc, you could be in jeopardy of losing your security clearances as well.
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  • Rain day
    ddemerson
    And yet, the feds in the DC area (non-telework) got a "rain" day off with pay yesterday while we are all facing the threat of furlough. Yes, I am a fed employee, but in Maine. We may be offered liberal leave in cases like this ("extreme" weather to us is usually several feet of snow), not taxpayer funded "rain" days with pay and no use of leave.
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  • Work day
    Just me
    I was working, on site, in Washington DC. I'm one of those who works, even when Congress says I must do so for free, until they can pay me.
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  • Not for free
    MichaelF
    If you work for a program financed by appropriated funds, in case of a furlough you not only will not be paid but also forbidden to work. That's the law! Violate it at your own risk.
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  • "Violate it at your own risk"
    30years
    It't more likely, at least in my agency, DON'T violate it at your own risk. I foresee being expect to do the same amount of work even while furloughed. And if you don't keep up your evaluation will be lowered. I am sure there will be plenty of employees that are told unofficially that they had better produce even while on furlough
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  • Violations
    Moderate
    Cannot say about your manager, but my manager cannot do that. He or she would not do that for ethics reasons. Do you have a union with grievance procedures. If enough file the same complaint, your manager will lose
    worker
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  • More false ruomors...
    rose123
    A rain day? Free time off? I don't think so. I personally worked for 10 hours and could have worked many more. My entire office telecommuted yesterday. We held meetings, worked on our projects, answered our customers questions, did work for customers who could not get in due to the bad weather. Our agency didn't miss a beat from the government being closed in the DC area yesterday. Same for my husbands and his office in the DC area. In fact of all the Feds I know in this area I am not aware of a singler person who took the day as a free non-work day. Yes, it was an option to have a 'free' day and I'm sure some took advantage but most of us want to get our jobs done despite the weather.
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  • More false rumors...
    My2Cents
    I am sure that not all DC government workers worked yesterday. Every single secretary/management assistant has the equipment to work at home? Most of the lower graded people who work for the government get the days off when the building is closed. I am sure most of them would love to work, at your pay scale, but times stink right now and advancement is almost unheard of anymore. Here in real snow/storm country, the building never closes until 5:30-6AM, at the earliest just for this instance. I have worked for the government for 25+ years and the building has closed right down twice in my career. Sure, places like DC aren't equipped with the equipment but quit "jumping the gun" and get out of panic mode until you know for sure. Or stop whining and trying to defend yourself because you have this fear that people are doubting you or jealous.
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  • Rain Day
    retired&lovingit
    ddemerson: Since you must have known how much snow/rain we in the MD, VA & DC area, would you please send me the winning numbers for the next Power Ball drawing? Your crystal ball must be marvelous to know that we were going to get rain when, just 50 or 60 miles to the west, they received 10-15 inches. I bet you walked 3 miles, without shoes, up-hill, both ways to school, didn't you?
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  • Is NOT Vacation
    wareagle83
    Furlough is not vacation for me. It is a 20% pay cut plain and simple with Feds being the pawn proving that there is pain caused by sequestration. I have already stopped my magazine and newspaper subscriptions. Cancelled my cable. Turned off a cell phone. I sure didn't expect to get rich as a Fed. I also didn't expect to have creditors knocking on my door, either.
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  • Vacation - with planning
    Maryland Mom
    I will be able to enjoy the unpaid days off because I have been saving for a rainy day ever since we had the furlough threats in FY11 when Congress couldn't pass a budget. I saw co-workers become severely stressed worrying about how they would pay their "necessary" bills. I decided then, and shared my thoughts with my co-workers, now is the time to start saving. I don't have fancy cable at home, I don't have a cell phone that does everything except eat for me. (I actually don't have a personal cell phone at all.) I don't buy $4 coffees, and eat lunch out more than once a week. So I am ready no matter how it's delivered. Extra days off in the summer will be perfect timing.
    Beach Mum
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  • LOOKING FORWARD TO A VACATION!!
    marine69
    No pay, no work! The idiots who claim this hurts the personnel with a smaller salary can't do math! Those that make more are losing more...DUH! So what? All that means is less taxes to pay and that the Gov is going to take in less money next tax year! So, while you're whining and can't afford the cheese (supposedly) then remember, you're getting back at Uncle Sam for being an idiot, by helping reduce the tax revenue next year! Cut salary? Sure, Uncle Sam, cut your own throat, dummy! LOL!
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  • Fewer taxes too
    contrarian
    When you look at how much you keep, you will realize that you only keep 50% of your pay. So one day off per pay period may equal $200-400 per month, depending on pay grade. I'm lucky in that my non-Fed-part-time spouse can work more hours. While I don't want the decrease, I realize it won't be the end of the world, unless it really is 22 days (which I don't believe). Frankly, I think this is community organizing in action and mostly scare tactics.
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  • "Community Organizing"?
    Moderate
    You are right. it is a community of radical right republicans forcing sequestration and furloughs upon us. And now the radical right Republicans in the House prepare a nonsense spending plan that eliminates defense sequestration and puts it all on domestic spending. The Democrats in the Senate should amend this piece of garbage by reinstating the defense spending sequestration and eliminating the domestic spending sequestration. Obviously both bills would be garbage, but then proper negotiations could take place. Then either sequestration would take place, no sequestration would take place, or a true compromise between the two.
    worker
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  • Now whos moving the goal post?
    Lisa Lisa
    You bring up a great point. It wasnt but last week or so that Woodward claimed Obama was moving the goal post. Sequester is in effect and now Congress has decided to provide extra padding to DoD. They moved the goal post IMO. I am glad if it means that ppl wont be furloughed, but flip-flopping is still flip-flopping.
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  • Hilarious
    Sideline Commentator
    worker - Your "Moderate" moniker is a riot. And here I thought after reading dozens and dozens of your posts, you didn't have a sense of humor...
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  • Sideline
    contrarian
    Glad you figured it out, I've been teasing Mod about her false advertising moniker for years. I'm afraid newbies don't get it though.
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  • Labels
    Moderate
    To sideline, Guess you are so far to the right that you have no clue as to what a moderate is.--------To contrarian, I was unaware that my writings revealled my sexual status. Are you that incompetent that you must guess at my sexual status? Don't you have anything better to write about? Additionally, contrarian, you moniker is not exactly to the point. You are very right of center. And I am not moderate to those of the extreme right. Maybe extreme right is what you are. Extreme left of center people would call me very conservative or worse. So yes, I am moderate. And the label is relative to the other persons's position.
    worker
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  • Moderate: thank you for playing; please try again
    Sideline Commentator
    Moderate - Actually I am an Independent, and I have given you absolutely no reason to assume I'm "so far to the right" but for my simple little poke at your moniker. Nice judgement call on your part. For someone so affronted by the opinions of others who dare disagree with your political and econonomic views, you cracked me up with the "you have no clue" comment about me. And the next time I read one of your dozens and dozens of posts that is actually moderate in nature, well..that will be the first. But please carry on...the entertainment value of your posts is why I occasionally bring popcorn to the office.
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  • I am an idiot
    FederalEmployee
    I must have been sleeping during my accounting courses, because as far as I can tell, a cut in my gross salary, regardless of the percentage, translates to a cut to my net salary. My adding machine must be broken because no matter how I slice the "cheese", I will be left with less money to pay my bills. Regardless of whether some see a furlough as a vacation or a nightmare, it is just plain wrong. I am all for spending cuts...this country needs fundamental tax reform, fundamental spending reform, and a fundamental change in personal attitudes. Across the board cuts are "idiotic". Cuts need to be made to eliminate duplicative programs and programs which do not add to the mission of the agency. The grading structure needs to change as well so that an employee's grade is commesurate with the education, skills, experience and skills required to perform the job. I see far too many little "kingdoms" where over the years what used to be considered grade 9 or 11 work is now grade 13 and 14 work. Social Security and Medicare need reform, including the manner in which they are funded. Most of all, the jackasses that purportedly run the country need to be replaced...or to quote Steve Forbes, we need to tear the roots right out of its head. However, furloughing employees in order to balance the budget is a very dangerous practice. Several years ago, the state in which I live decided to balance the budget on the backs of its employees. For several years, employees were cut from a 40 hour work week to a 37.5 hour work week. The state has now frozen its employees' pay for the past five years. These employees endured two years of 10-day furloughs. Now, our illustrious governor wants to bring the furloughs back. As is true in Congress, our state legislature is not capable of working together for the common good of all. It has to be all or nothing with these people. I doubt that any government executive would voluntarily decide that the program they head needs to be axed. Those are the same people who will be deciding what to cut. Just call me an idiot.
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