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  • Exit Polling Showed Fed Workers for Romney
    JBsPoint2Ponder
    Interesting. It was reported that exit polls in northern Virginia had 51% of federal employees supporting Romney. I guess we have some clear thinking folks among our ranks!
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  • Correct
    Rob
    Colleen Kelly and other union leaders may be patting themselves on the back, but I'm sorry to say the election was not decided by the federal employee. The GOP doesn't need to woo the federal employee or other union members to win future elections, nor do they need to compete with the Dems by offering gov't freebies to the various demographic groups. The GOP has to be more inclusive no doubt about it, but you don't get there by promising free birth control to single women or $5000 savings bonds to every child born in the US (I guess we'll hear that one again from Hillary during the 2016 campaign).
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  • Moderate the GOP. It6 might help
    Moderate
    And let the GOP keep on moving to the right. That will guarantee the Dems more wins. Free birth control? $5000 bonds? Sounds like fantasy land for you. You must really be bitter that your radical rightists did not win. Maybe they do need to moderate their positions.
    worker
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  • How valid is the poll?
    Moderate
    And what about the rest of the country? And how scientific was the poll. And who reported it, Fox?
    worker
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  • 0-1 & 1
    Putt-Putt
    In one of his less successful movies, Clint Eastwood (he of empty chair speeches) stated "we're Oh one and one" (Heartbreak Ridge. Referring to his character's war record while in the Marines: zero wins, one loss and one tie. i.e. Korea, Vietnam and Grenada). That's sorta the way I feel as a Federal employee looking back on the the first Obama term: There was no win on the pay raise front, a loss of critical support when the Republicans were denigrating us, and a tie from FERS employees receiving the benefit of unused sick leave added to years of service offset by new employees' requirement to contribute more towards their retirement. The last four years (actually the last two) were a nightmare for the federal workforce, and I do not want it repeated. Both sides "of the aisle" need to lay aside their egos & rhetoric and look to the realities of what needs done - raise taxes and cut spending. Boehner needs to reign in those conservative extremists the way Tip O'neill did with the liberal arm of his party during the Reagan years, and Reid needs to step down from his bully pulpit and allow total debate on all issues (that's the only way to stop the fillibuster. He needs to remember his party used this powerful tool itself during the George W's presidency). And President Obama needs to take a serious look at his "leadership" methods. He needs to realize that leaders lead, they don't blame. (I would suggest that he read General Eisenhower's speech that he planned to give if the Normandy invasion failed. He wasn't going to blame his field officers or soldiers, he would lay the blame upon his own shoulders for failing to make the proper command decisions). We the federal workforce, and American Citizens in general,certainaly don't need four more years of finger pointing and gridlock. We need four years of teamwork which lead to some tough decisions to get this country going again.
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  • ever hear the saying leadership starts from the top?
    Rob
    Again, I agree with the comments. It's too easy to sit back and point the finger and blame the other guy. This country can accomplish great things and address many of the fiscal problems we face if the leader of the country leads. He said all the right things in his post election speech, but if you go back and look at his speech after the '08 election it's nearly identical. Actions speak louder than words! I'm cautiously optimistic.
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  • Yes leadership does. This includes the Republicans
    Moderate
    Problem is your friends in the Republican party want their way or the highway.
    worker
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  • Putt Putt right on
    contrarian
    Great post, but as long as "The One" can get away with "Blame Bush" that first "0" won't go away. He's apologized for everybody elses mistakes except his own. I'm afraid we will be sacrificed in whatever deal comes up. It would be great to see things improve but I'm afraid the same gridlock will continue, which many people may like.
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  • Republicans won't acknowledge their faults
    Moderate
    Because Bush and the Republicans gave us the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Until you Republicans acknowledge this, and look for true corrections, then the problems will continue. Yes compromise is necessary.
    worker
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  • Not the Worst. Not the Republicans Fault
    ben
    The recession at the end of the Carter administration was much worse. The resson for the present downturn was improvident government policy promulgated by Clinton, private business's attempt to adjust to those policies and an injection of $trillion by Fannie/Freddie which distorted the housing market. There are videos available showing Barney Frank stating that Frannie/Freddie were alright, which an audit report was available stating the opposite. Barney was in bed with management -- literally.
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  • Definitely the Republicans fault.
    Moderate
    Good try. The depression during the Bush era was the worst since the Great Depression. So say the pundits. Stop trying to rewrite history to suit the radical right needs. Bush and Company did nothing to stop the bankers' greed. And of course the bankers are Republican. Also, The Republicans controlled both houses of Congress from 1995-2006 for the most part. Barney Frank is not even relevant during that era. 1984 and newspeak was 28 years ago during the Reagan era.
    worker
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  • Conservatives Real World. Liberals Are Ideologues
    ben
    Don't quote pundits, look at real world. Early 1980s recession coutesy of Carter was much worse. http://investmentwatchblog.com/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-1981-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/ As to bankers, they've been Democrats for ages. http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/obama-attacks-banks-while-raking-in-wall-street-dough/ http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/obama-raised-more-money-from-rich-bankers-than-any-republican-candidate/
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  • No you do not read well
    Moderate
    Please read the full article you cited. Unemployment was calculated differently then. If the comparison was the same we would show 13-15% unemployment now. This is per your citation. As pundits have said, this is the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. By the way, you can thank Reagan for the recession of 1981-1982. Was it necessary for him to squeeze the economy to get rid of inflation. Probably yes. Was the inflation Carter's fault? Probably not. It started with guns and butter of Lyndon Johnson and continued through Nixon with the oil crisis, Ford, and Carter. That was stagflation then. Reagan did take the bull buy the horns to solve that problem. Of course it was at great cost.-----Since your first cite was worthless, I will not bother with the rest of them. Let someone else pick you apart.
    worker
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  • Misunderstanding Of Economic Statistics
    ben
    The unemployment rate in the 1980s and now is computed the same. The article referred to the misery index, or unemployed and under employed (those working part time who desire full time work). That index is still used and computed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The contraction in early 1981 and 82 was caused by the Fed, which the President does not control. Please educate yourself on this.
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  • To Ben
    Moderate
    For 2008-2009… The CEO of NuCor Steel was on Squawk Box this morning. , He said actual unemployment is 13-15% if you calculate it the way they did prior to the 80s when they changed it (for obvious political reasons under Reagan/Bush). , If we don’t hit double-digits it’s likely because the stats are not accurate. , The reality is no one knows what is going to happen. , I ask you one simple question to demonstrate the situation we are in: where is the money going to come from to drive growth if fewer people are employed and overall those who are employed (except for the top 5%) are making the same or less, , and borrowing less (because the banks have stopped lending)? What is going to drive growth, , much less enough growth to create jobs? Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-1981-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/#k7MFxQpRcpSXL0PT.99 This is the cite I took from the cite you gave me. Guess you think the executive from NuCor is a Democrat. Please read your cites completely and not just the stuff you want. And be aware that Reagan was telling the fed what he wanted. Also, I am not criticizing Reagan for what he wanted. Stagflation was out of control then.
    worker
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  • Simple and True
    Fed1979
    The best post I've read in a long time. To the point without being nasty. Yes, the Prez will have to lead. Yes, the Congress will have to actually work. Hopefully, the GOP will get away from the agenda to see the Prez not reelected since it is a non issue. Do what you were elected to do. But the burden is also on the voters. We must stop returning incumbents that have forgotten why they were elected. Until it's "people before party" the gridlock will remain. The young people have spoken and they are not buying into politics as usual. The elected must realize they have two choices. Change or cease to exist.
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  • What change?
    Moderate
    However what change?
    worker
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  • Accurate
    Big Joe
    Very accurate post....
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  • To Putt Putt
    Moderate
    The middle part of the beginning of your statement was very true and I agree. Both sides need to work together to get the economy moving again. That means working together. However, I think you biased your position by writing more against the Dems than the Republicans. An example is that you stated that Obama did not defend us enough when the Republicans were denigrating us. You should have condemned the Republicans for doing that in the first place. Obama fgave us a 2 year freeze, probably to be 3, but the Republicans were offering anywhere from a 5 year freeze to worse. And they wanted us to pay more into our pension plans. Allowing full debate will not stop a filibuster. The purpose of a filibuster is to stop an action by talking it to death. The results of your proposal is to prolong the agony. If there is a filibuster which cannot be broken, then move on to something else unless a compromise can be worked out by both sides. I do agree with the last 2 sentences.
    worker
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  • Interesting
    Linda
    Interesting readin the comments this morning. Putt-Putt is correct in that both parties need to get off their high horses and work together. Sacrifices will have to be made by all, but if it is a little more evenly spread that just Federal workers or middle class paying, people would take it better, but no one wants to pay more taxes or get services cut, but it his things both are going to happen. .................As far as Rob and the free birth control to single women, why not? Single women on birth control keeps more off them off welfare when they get pregnant. That is money well spent and birth control should be more widely available and acceptable. Less on welfare and less abortions. Do not understand the GOP stand on that one, or shall I say the extremist is the GOP.
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  • let me restate
    Rob
    The point I was making was the GOP needs to expand their base beyond whites if they want to win back the White House. I don't think the party needs to compete with the Dems by offering free stuff to accomplish that goal.
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  • Need to moderate
    Moderate
    No Rob. They must moderate their positions.
    worker
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  • Great post Linda
    Moderate
    Great post Linda. I do not follow the birth control issue. Is it free or is it a drug issue for Feds. No, I am not directly affected as my wife is beyond that age. And yes, both sides need to work together as either side can block the other.
    worker
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  • 4 more years...
    Maryland Mom
    2 thoughts, borrowed: Fooled you once, shame on him. Fooled you twice, shame on you. 4 more years, this is Insanity: definition Doing the same thing a second time and expecting different results.
    Beach Mum
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  • No more Republicans please
    Moderate
    Better than the Romney, oops Bush. and the Republicans Depression era.
    worker
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  • The next four years ....
    Jeremiah
    The thrust of the article reveals the problems inherent in the Federal unions' approach to the electoral process. They cleary seek a quid pro quo, in classic inside-the-Beltway interest group fashion, of seeking bennies for themselves in response to providing political support for the winning side (even though their members are far more poltically divided then the stance of their unions'leaders would indicate). The comment regarding a postal union touting a contractual pay increase illustrates this blinkered, short term view; with the USPS teetering on the edge of effective bankruptcy, they celebrate an action that can only further jeopardize their members' jobs. Regarding what will ensue in the next four years, I believe there's a better chance of coming up with true workable bipartisan solutions in a divided government, despite all the lamentations to the contrary. Both sides now have to settle down to work out the compromises that are so necessary, and with the election behind us, we may just possibly be able to move beyond the kids' playground level taunting behavior and ad hominem arguments engaged in by the many zealots on both sides in the heated run-up to the election. Many of the problems of overbearing one-sided government, which we saw displayed in particular during the first two years of the President's first term (illustrated most clearly by the President's dismissive comment of "I won" to congressional Republicans' recommendations for substantive revisions to the then-proposed health care reform bill) could have been avoided if bipartisanship would have required instead to pass the legislation, but that didn't happen. The Founding Fathers, after all, having experienced the problems stemming from an oppressive British governance model, indeed sought to establish instead a government that was by design not especially efficient, in the sense that they intentionally wanted a governance process that would put the breaks on the ability of an unchecked majority to run amuck. Now we'll have to see whether the national interest rather than narrow partisan considerations will be really taken into account by both sides. If not, epic national disaster looms.
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  • To Jeremiah
    Moderate
    Obama invited the Republicans to help shape the Obamacare. They refused. In fact they did everything to block it Including the granny scare. It was only after Obamacare was ready to be passed that the Republicans said they wanted to start over. This was classic delay tactics and not an offer by the Republicans to participate in the legislation.
    worker
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  • No!
    ben
    Democrats wrote Obamacare without requesting any Republican imput. Per Pelosi, the Dems didn't even know what was in the thing.
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  • Yes!
    Moderate
    They did request the Republicans to participate. And they refused. Your Pelosi comment is not relevant to anything.
    worker
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