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  • You have to be Kidding
    Dennis Retiree
    I loved the statement from the IRS Insolvency Employee who said that it took 20 years for this employee to be comfortable in the job. What a mediocrity! It should take an no employee no more that 3 to 5 years to become completely proficient in any job. This individual was probably one of those Federal Employees who was afraid of making a decision. I met a great many of these individuals when I worked for the IRS. So the Federal Government is going to lose a great deal of talent in the coming years, so what ? This fits in with the far right agenda. Mediocre Employees fit into their plan. The idea is that lower paid and more unskilled workers will of course provide poorer service. This will result in more dissatisfaction from the American People. The far right hopes that this leads to support from the American People for a far smaller Federal Government. The fact that a poorly paid Federal Workforce will also lead to more stealing, bribe taking etc. is just an added bonus for the far right. This will also lead to calls for a smaller Federal Government. There is a plan here. You get what you pay for, and the far right extremist tea baggers are counting on this premise being true.
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  • Not quite right
    Nette
    The person did not state that it took them twenty years to feel comfortable in their jobs, what they said was it took them at least 3 years to feel comfortable with their job and that they had over twenty years of government service. Please read and then respond. I do believe the brain drain has started, however I am also sick of hearing people talk about how we used to do it. Don't get me wrong I have over 25 years of service with the IRS and I love change. I love new ideas and can't wait for the latest and greatest technology. I definitely believe in working smarter not harder, however with the Treasury Department not being fully funded it is hard for us to be the best and the brightest when we are always at least ten years behind in technology.
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  • He said it took three years to feel comfortable in a new job
    contrarian
    But who's quibbling? The point is alot of us will be eligible to go and many will. I hope I can afford to go, looking like I won't. We'll see what President Romney does to us. I'm guessing we'll go back to hoping the Senate saves us, but that gang is horribly unreliable. They all are unreliable. When we leave how many jobs will be filled? Maybe Mike can start writing about the May-December govt office epidemic? (full of old and young but nobody in between).
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  • Jumping the gun!!!!
    Moderate
    President Romney? Aren't you jumping the gun just a bit? I'd rather see Obama in the Whitehouse. And g-d forbid VP Ryan. That is sure to create another depression.
    worker
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  • Decisions
    Bud
    Dennis,I don't know what part of IRS you worked in or where.I did 36 years staring in Collection and then many years as a manager in the "old" service centers.Service center managers had to make many decisions every day.No decision was worse than a bad decision.Overall I'd say the service center managers got it right about 90% of the time.Now if you worked in HQ,Dennis,I can fully understand the lack of decision makers.
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  • PSC vs headquarters
    Moderate
    Really. I have heard of many decisions at PSC that stuck it to the workers. And managers had it bad also. I really cannot say which was worse or better. Lower level RA managers were usually pretty knowledgeable in the past.
    worker
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  • PSC
    Bud
    Moderate,you've been around a long time.I got "drafted" from Dallas to PSC as a Division Chief after the 1985 fiasco.We turned the place around but it took over 5 years.Lots of long hours,lots of good felt results.The post fiasco managers are the ones I referred to.Then I got "paroled" to Kansas City,a very pleasant experience.
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  • Good Job
    Moderate
    Ouch. How did your family handle the moves? You must have been good to get a success. Did management reward you other than giving you a good place? I still say I would work outside of the Service Center. I am at a satellite office which is much better than headquarters. I also could never go into management. I do not have the tempermant (spelling error)_for that type of position.
    worker
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  • Time to be proficient.
    Moderate
    To Dennis, I can truthfully say that it does take 5 years for an RA to be proficient at his (her) job. One needs a great deal of experience in learning and properly applying complex tax law. It is not simply 3 years and you are good at the job. Contrary to what you may think, there are too many RA's and managers, who think they are good, but are not. Many rely on the manual and not the law.------------------------------------------------------ To Nettie, I would not mind certain changes such as getting computers instead of doing the job by hand. But many of the changes, such as not letting RA's decide what tools are needed in the job, are very poor and result in unnecessary paperwork.
    worker
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  • Hey You ... Over at the IRS ...
    MDBBALL02
    To the commentor above, he said it took 3 years to get comfortable, not 20--he's walking out the door with his 26 years of experience! As for the author of the IRS commentary ... I hope and pray I am NEVER pleased to see my agency sink or rooting for it, as you so obvioulsy are! I am a proud member of the the Federal Highway Administration, where I have devoted the bulk share of my career, putting my degree to good use for the Nation, instead of the private sector where I (and most of the Engineers in this agency) could have certainly made more money. We have always run a tight ship here, and it is practically unheard of that you would ever see anyone on our staff--located from coast to coast--bringing dishonor to the Federal workforce with any Scandals. Yes, a few benefits have tightened up lately, and we continue to jointly be bashed nightly on the news for simply executing Congressionally mandated programs and doing our jobs as Federal Employees, but it is STILL the best employer, and I wouldn't want to work anywhere else! The personal and professional fulfillment I have gotten from my career, knowing I have also actually saved the lives of motorists and passengers with my contribution, makes me know that I will ALWAYS hope the Federal Goverment employee can look beyond the rhetoric and the constant sacrafice, and take pride in a job well done AND hope for the best from his successors! Sounds like you might not be a Fed for the right reasons, and perhaps it IS time for your to get out. The rest of us don't have egos so big as to want our agency or departments to crumble when we retire, and most go to great leangths to leave a legacy--including trained replacements. Shame on you! (Thanks for your service, anyhow...And, enjoy your retirement.)
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  • Hey You
    Dennis Retiree
    I was wrong about the 20 years instead of three and I admit my mistake. I am certainly not rooting for the IRS to sink. You totally misinterpreted and failed to grasp what I wrote. I can only assume therefore that you are a right wing Republican. I was writing about what will happen to the federal service if the far right comes to power. So you are happy with a three year pay freeze? I hope that you are still happy when Romney-Ryan freezes your pay for five years or maybe ten years? I hope that you appreciate the huge increase in retirement contributions that you will have to pay. Also. I hope you like the high five average for retirement instead of the current high three. I hope that you appreciate the huge increases in your health premiums when the government contribution is reduced from an average 72% to 50%. You need to wake up and see the clouds on the horizon. You need to stop being a Pollyanna. A final additional thought, I don't think all Americans appreciate the death trap entrances and exits on so many of our highways etc. Your agency need to do a better job in the future.
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  • Doesn't matter who is in power - they all scroo us.
    The Original Joe S
    I paid taxes on the money I paid into the retirement system. Guess what? The scumbags only allow 1/30th of that each year for 30 years to be taken off the income tax. If you croak and your heirs don't know that there's a pile of tax-paid money still in the hands of the thieving scumbags, guess what? The thieves KEEP it! Thank you for your long years of faithful service. You wonder why people have no warm and fuzzies about their former agencies. This is one of many reasons.....
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  • 3 year rule gone
    Moderate
    Thank Reagan for eliminating the 3 year rule. Depends on life expectancy tables.
    worker
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  • Dennis doesn't know what he's talking about!
    Taxpayer Too
    I think you're barking up the wrong tree with the last two sentences in your comments. What does IRS have to do with the hiways exits and entrance? Yes, we do collect taxes from individuals and business and part of this money is used for the U S interstate system but the Dept. of Transportation is the agency that oversees the freeways and not the IRS. You need to think twice before you talk instead of talking twice...........Maybe it's time for you to open your mouth and change feet.
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  • Dennis - you're worried about reduced benefits?
    Rob
    The soon to be $20 trillion national debt (if Obama wins next month) is more of a threat to our federal benefits than any republican. I find it quite alarming that people are more concerned about a high 5 retirement calculation than a country that is on the path to bankruptcy. You must not have any children or grand children because if you did then you should be more concerned about their future than yours.
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  • "...$20 trillion national debt (if Obama wins next month)..."?
    FERS Fed
    Sorry, Rob, but the trajectory of the national debt for the foreseeable future was set when George W Bush and DICK 'Deficits-Don't-Matter' Cheney put two wars on the national credit card with no intention of paying for them. Handing the levers of power back to the 'I-got-mine-and-to-he11-with-everyone-else' crowd is the absolute very last thing voters should do if they're at all concerned about their children's and grandchildren's futures.
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  • Bush's Record
    ben
    As to Bush, the war supplement was from $85 to $90 billion annually, or about $560 billion at the most for the eight years of his administration -- a significant sum, but not debt buster advertised.
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  • That's laughable
    FERS Fed
    War appropriations to DoD alone were more than twice that amount. Additions to DoD's base budget were another $400B-$600B. Interest to date on the borrowed funds is almost $200B. Adding estimated veterans' medical/disability costs, war-related int'l assistance, and GWOT additions to Homeland Security spending puts the total closer to $2.5T to date, not counting future war spending or interest payments. For a less partisan estimate of the cost to the country, see http://costsofwar.org/article/economic-cost-summary. The Bush/Cheney wars are the 'gift' that are going to keep on 'giving' for a generation.
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  • Mixing Expenses
    ben
    The GWOT supplemental budget included only war expenses. Attempting to include other expenses is not legitimate. Most of the VA budget pays for assistance to WWII to Vietnam veterans. The number of veterans requiring assistance is less than 10 percent of the others. As to Homeland Security spending, you are mixing pre-existing expenses for Secret Service, Coast Guard, etc, that were once spread over a number of departments. Much of the expense is legitimate. There are bad guys who wish to do harm to the US and the West.
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  • Even the Congressional Budget Office puts...
    FERS Fed
    ...Iraq-Afghanistan war appropriations at $1.4T, more than twice your $560B figure. See http://www.cbo.gov/topics/national-security/iraq-and-afghanistan ..... So, it would be your opinion that there are no other indirect costs related to the Iraq-Afghanistan wars? That kind of dissembling perfectly illustrates why Republicans should be kept as far away as possible from the Treasury.
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  • To Rob and Ben
    Moderate
    But George and the Republicans also gave us the depression which has forced up deficits so we can get out of their mess. Once the recession of 2001 or so was over, we should have been running surpluses and not deficits. The Repubs were in power then.
    worker
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  • I hope and pray I am NEVER pleased to see my agency sink or rooting for it, as you so obvioulsy are!
    The Original Joe S
    You didn't work for a gang of self-aggrandizing ruthless incompetent vengeful scumbags. Place I worked had people in high positions who got there using spatulate lips placed on the appropriate posteriors. Innovation was stifled, unless it was in consonance with the party line. Making a decision was tortuous, and often punished. I filed IMMEDIATELY upon being eligible. I don't miss those bozos, and revel in my retirement. I hope the government stays solvent so I can continue to collect that which I have earned. Peace on them!
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  • most go to great leangths to leave a legacy--including trained replacements.
    The Original Joe S
    I did that once. Got scrood for trying to be a good troop. Got scrood for trying to take care of my subordinates. Obsequious toadies got promoted if they were yes-men.
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  • FHA question: What's the Federal regulation which governs traffic light timing?
    The Original Joe S
    I would like to see that one.
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  • The military...
    G Street
    Somehow survives with people leaving after 20 years. And perhaps some young people will actually join the government now...
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  • Poor Causey
    Teachersson
    Poor Causey having to write these articles on the very edge of a DEM victory or the alternate universe of a TEA steeped victory.
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  • Human Capital
    Rock Man
    Interesting article in yesterday's Washington Post about Thomas Jefferson and his attempt to find a run-away slave whom he owned. Slaves were essentially regarded as "human capital"... capital that was owned, bought, and sold at market. Now it seems that most Federal agencies have picked up on this theme, and their personnel functions are being renamed "Office of Human Capital". Wonder when OPM will follow suit?... after the election? Perhaps. Dedicated Federal employees with years of experience at their jobs have pretty much seen it all, and this "corporate memory" can be a valuable asset to the much younger managers who are hired to supervise them. I resent my agency regarding me as "human capital", like I am a commodity to be bought, sold, or traded.
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