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  • In a recent study
    mike1987
    It was found that the Heritage Foundation thinks 43.2% less than an average republican. Which as we know, is already below moron status.
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  • this is funny ...
    voiceofreason
    id also add that thats still 43.2% more thinking than an average democrat ... By the way, it doesnt look good when you call someone else a moron and you have a run-on sentence in your post *rolls eyes*
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  • I work more than 40 hours a week
    pshediack
    I'm a Federal employee (GS-13) and I work more than 40 hours a week. I'm also a program manager - project manager. If Heritage bothered to check some national pay scales from industry, they'd find some career fields in the Federal government are underpaid compared to their private sector counterparts doing the same work. For example, the national average for salary for a certified Project Manager is $115,000 -- not counting benefits which, for that shortage skill, are excellent. That's not the average salary -- not counting benefits -- for the same work in the Federal government. So if we follow that industry standard, the average Federal government worker holding a project management certification is underpaid unless he or she is a very senior GS-14 or intermediate level GS-15. So much for the Heritage Foundation's stereotyping about Federal workers. Wrong on two counts in just my instance.
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  • exception that proves the rule?
    archon
    Perhaps you're an exceptional manager, and you'd do much better in the private sector? I do project management in the private sector, and the "average" ex-federal employee isn't too appealing to us as a job candidate for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that there is clearly not a direct correspondence between job titles, competencies, and experience in the private and federal workforces. The few we've interviewed over the years were quite disappointed that the best we could offer them was a demotion in rank and about a 30% - 50% pay cut. It's my business to know about federal project management, and the failure rate of federal projects (missed deadlines, over budget, defective requirements, etc.) simply could not, and would not be tolerated in the private sector.
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  • I would expect a federal worker would not be attractive to you
    NormalDude
    You say... It's my business to know about federal project management, and the failure rate of federal projects (missed deadlines, over budget, defective requirements, etc.) You are KILLING me. Hilarious.
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  • The thought bothers you....
    archon
    ... that private sector people know your job better than you do, yet get paid 30% - 50% less?
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  • What is my job?
    NormalDude
    ?
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  • I doubt it matters...
    archon
    ... whatever it is, your "counterparts" in the private sector probably perform at the same level of competence, two pay grades lower, and 30% - 50% less pay.
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  • Fire Us All!
    fedsRUs
    Go ahead and just fire all the federal employees since we're so useless. To the man whose father would take 2-3 hour lunches, you're dad committed fraud against the United States Government which is illegal. He should have been fired by any agency's time and attendance regulations. It's a good thing he wasn't. He would have had to go out and work at a real job in the private sector. The only agency that I know that consistently has received the day before a holiday off, are the Federal courts, bankruptcy and criminal. The untruths that are scattered thoughout these comments are insulting to those of us who have worked hard in our federal careers. We did whatever we had to do to get the job done and didn't watch the clock when doing it and had too many times where we were not paid for it. You people are so clueless. You take a few people and their experiences and attach it to all of us. You believe whatever you read. You are no better than the protestors in Egypt now. You don't want to know the truth. Who would you have to blame then? I just find it interesting that people have so quickly forgotten how much money Congress has wasted over the decades. And for you idiots out there, this one is just for you. Since before I started with the federal gov't in 1989, we have been funding our own retirement in a 401k. I don't have the same retirement you fathers did. So when you hear about how much the federal retirement is costing the taxpayers, this is your father's retirement system not the one in place now. So when us FERS people start retiring, the cost will go way down. BTW, who do you think Congress has borrowed money from for their pork belly projects? You people REALLY need to do your research and get out more.
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  • if we fire you, youll be eligible for unemployment
    voiceofreason
    no ... it would be much better if you just quit ... perhaps if good employees like yourself would help root out waste, private citizens wouldnt complain so much about fed wages
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  • FEDS fail because of greed in Wash and Corp America
    Honest Broker
    I work in an engineering organization, which over the last decade or two has gone to outsourcing all the work to large contract companies. This sounded good on the surface to the American public, but in reality the contractors and politicians were able to change from fixed price and delivery contracts to cost plus fixed fee and best effort is OK for a delivery. The Govt engineers do appear to be lazy because all they are only allowed to observe, write status reports and wait for the next meeting. As for the contractor, they must staff up people for all kinds of crazy jobs mainly consisting of a paper mill so they can make their profit. The Govt engineers on the other hand get to read all this paperwork and not really do any engineering which is what they originally came to the Govt. I watch them get depressed and find something else to do, leave early, drink too much, etc. I tried to fight back by pointing out the issue, but then the contractors figured out that they could turn the Govt employees supervisors on their side by offering them a retirement job. I met my MRA several months ago and I am really tired of fighting this battle and losing, so my paperwork went in for retirement. I have kept my engineering skills and credentials sharp, so I have started a consulting business and have 3 clients lined up (not DOD related). I will hit the ground running on the day after my official retirement, so there are some of us that take pride in our work even if we were one of those Lazy Good for Nothing Govt employees.
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  • Hertiage report BS
    personnanongratta
    I would challange any person who wrote this report to actually work as a federal employee for a month. I don't know who they interviewed but they did not interview me or any of my co-workers. I'm usually in by 6 and out by 4 if I am lucky but that is rare. Yes I do pay taxes both state and federal, health insurance, medicare, social security, etc, etc. So for those who think we are lazy, and incompetent please come work with us perhaps you'll see a difference when you look at the take home pay after taxes and working longer than 40 hours a week with no overtime or compt time.
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  • I could do your months work in ...
    voiceofreason
    about 2 weeks ... exempt employees arent eligible for ot, so if you dont like it, get a job where you are a wage earner ...
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