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  • Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?
    contrarian
    Truthfully, I can not answer yes to this question. Sadly, I not only worry about me but about many others I interact with, so I realize it could have been worse. Likely will get worse next year, no matter who wins. I know it's not just about me but about opportunity for all. Is the country on the wrong track economically? Without a doubt. The rubbish we've been handed about deflation when we've had inflation in everything but the housing and stockes is another scandal that goes unpunished. Where were all the Wall Street perp walks? I wanted hope and change but got shafted again.
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  • Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?
    Dennis Retiree
    The first question is are you better off than you were 4 years ago ? If the answer to this question is no, then the next question is: Who is responsible for your worse economic condition ? For me, the answer to the first question is no and the answer to the second question is a loud and emphatic Corporate America. I am a retiree and during my working life I was a saver and investor. The decline in interest rates has really hurt me as well as the mediocre rise in stocks over the last few years.
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  • Federal Bill Tracker
    Teachersson
    I wouldn't say no matter who wins. Look at the federal bill tracker on Federal News Radio. It is a little outdated but there is an "(R)" next to every introduced bill to tear into federal workers. I refuse to vote against myself just because someone dangles some conservative platform.
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  • Federal Bill Tracker
    Dennis Retiree
    Any Federal Worker or Federal Retiree voting Republican in 2012 is like a turkey voting for an early Thanksgiving. My late father would say that these people are "thick." I love it when these Federal Workers/Retirees say that even thought the Republicans may hurt them, they are voting Republican to save the country. This is even more ridiculous. Let's support the Romney-Ryan Plan that will screw over the middle class and poor Americans and give big new tax cuts to the rich. This plan will really save and be good for the country. As Steve Schmidt who was John McCain's Campaign Manager in 2008 said of the tea bagger far right: "These people are dumb, real dumb, and you can't fix stupid."
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  • Too Funny
    Rob
    I love it when somebody lectures me about what the other guy will do if elected but igonores what the current guy has already done. GIVE ME A BREAK!!
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  • "I love it when somebody lectures me..."?
    FERS Fed
    It doesn't seem like it was directed at anyone in particular. Feeling a little defensive today, Right Wing Rob? ........... As for "..ignores what the current guy has already done", you must mean like 'bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive', right?
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  • there you have it folks
    Rob
    The national debt has increased more under this president than all the presidents from George Washington to George W Bush combined, yet according to FERS Fed we're all better off because OBL is dead and GM is alive. Wow, thanks FERS Fed. I need to rethink this thing.
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  • Really, Rob?
    FERS Fed
    According to the Treasury's 'Debt to the Penny' website, the gross debt was $10.63T as of Jan. 20, 2009. As of Aug 30, 2012, the gross debt was $15.99T. Setting aside the question of whether President Obama is responsible for the entire increase [because Congress, including the Republican-controlled House, has to vote to increase the US debt], in Rob's world, 5.36T is greater than 10.36T. There you have right-wing conservative math at its finest. And yes, we ARE all better off with bin Laden dead and GM alive.
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  • Really, Rob?
    FERS Fed
    According to Treasury's Debt to the Penny website, the US gross debt was $10.63T as of 1/20/09. As of 8/30/12, the US gross debt was $15.99T. So, in your world the $5.35T increase is greater than $10.63T debt when Bush left office? There you have conservative math at its finest, folks. And yes, we really ARE better off with bin Laden dead and GM alive.
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  • To FERS Fed
    Rob
    I saw the clip on Biden last night where he was on the campaign trail and chanted 3 or 4 times in a row, "bin Laden is dead and GM is alive." Wow, and I thought you came up with that one on your own. Funny that would come from Biden when according to the OBL documentary after he was killed we learned that Biden was against the raid on OBL's compound in Pakistan. So I guess if Biden was in command OBL would still be alive along with GM.
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  • To right wing Rob
    Moderate
    Actually, I agree with you that we are not better economically now than 4 years ago. However, we can thank George Bush and his Republican cronies for the Bush Depression we went through. That greatly damaged the country It also damaged federal workers by allowing your right wing cronies such as CATO, heritage Foundation, Ryan, and other right wingers to successfully push to keep fed workers living standards down and to push for more wage freezes and cuts to wages and benefits. Please do not tll me to ignore their words. You can risk your livelihood by ignoring what they say. I will not do that.----As far as what Obama has done, he is attempting to fix what your allies have done to the country, mainly the Bush and the Republican's Depression
    worker
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  • Conservative Values Dump?
    JBsPoint2Ponder
    It is simple-minded to seek short-term gains that contribute to the pending financial failure, like that of Greece. Even if you confiscate all the wealth of the "rich", we would not resolve the underlining problems of big government driven solutions. Our country's financial health comes from the freedom of individuals to create and conduct business. As a current FERS employee with over 25 years of service, I see the value of civil service and the excessive of poorly managed government services. Voting for my future!
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  • Correction
    Moderate
    Wejust want the wealthy to pay their fair share. Stop with the confiscation. 1984 and newspeak was 28 years ago.
    worker
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  • Amen to That
    FederalEmployee
    Romney states that federal workers are paid 30 to 40 percent more than the private sector, and that if he becomes president, he will change that by tying our pay to that of the private sector. I can attest to the fact that my counterparts in the private sector make far more than I do. If Congress decides to tie our pay to that of the private sector, I will run to sign up for the SES program. CEO's of large corporations make millions. Congress should tie their own pay to the private sector - not too many people make $174,000 a year. The Speaker of the House makes $223,500 per year, and the majority and minority leaders in both chambers make $193,400. Congressional salaries are outrageous, and should be substantially lowered.
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  • This IS Reality
    Rob
    When that evil GWB took office in 2001 a GS13 step 1 in the RUS locality was making $57,345. When he left office in 2009 the RUS GS13 step 1 was $80,402. What's that, about 40% increase in the 8 years? Now lets look at Obama. When he took office in 2009 the RUS GS13 step 1 was making $80,402. Three years later that GS13 step 1 is making $81,823. THIS IS REALITY and it STINKS!!!
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  • During President George W. Bush's Administration no one cared about the deficit
    FERS Fed
    Just ask Dick Cheney. But that was then, and this is now. Republicans clearly intend to balance the federal budget on the backs of federal employees and middle class Americans in general. Believe a Romney Administration would be good for federal pay if you want, but you're only fooling yourself. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance.
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  • Correction
    Linda
    Effective January 2001 a GS-13 step 1 made $61,749 at RUS. As of January 2009 as 13-1 at RUS made $80,402. A Difference of $18,653 over 8 years or an average of $2,331.63 a year. Doesn't look like 40% to me! 3 yeaers later (which would be 2012) a GS 13-1 is making $81,823 or an average increase of $473.67 a year. A big decrease in average pay raises for the same step and grade. What was the average pay raise for the private sector of a similiar salary in 2001? I don't know, but would guess much higher.
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  • This is reality
    Dennis Retiree
    Rob, your point is ludicrous. We had a financial collapse, where were you in October 2008? The world after the financial collapse caused by the Bush Administration, the banks and Wall Street is a totally different place. No one except the CEOs and a few lucky others have received large pay increases in the last four years.
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  • what point?
    Rob
    Go back and read my post Dennis. I merely stated the facts of the GS13 salary. What point in that post was ludicrous? You on the other hand seem to be making a point in your post. Are you suggesting that federal raises are based on the state of the economy? Would you say the economy was booming during the 90s when Clinton had the White House? Maybe I should have compared the 8 raises we got during the Clinton years to the 8 under GWB. Would that be a ludicrous comparison? I don't think you'll like those results either. Maybe I should go back to Bush Senior. Hmmm, wasn't he the guy who signed the The Federal Employees Pay Comparability Act in 1990? You know, the law that Bill Clinton failed to follow when he took over in 1992. The point I'm making in THIS post is that when it comes to federal pay raises the facts show that over the past 20+ years we've done better when the GOP is in the White House. That may seem ludicrous to you, but sometimes facts are tough to swallow, especially when you've been brain washed through the years into thinking the Dems are our friends when it comes to federal pay raises.
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  • Your distortions and leaving out facts are unsuitable
    Moderate
    Maybe you ought to go back to Reagan the Clown to see what our pay raises were then. And why didn't the Republican, George Bush 1 start the catchup raises right away? And yes, Clinton should have observed the law and started the raises. But why didn't George Bush 2 make the corrections Clinton did not make? Your selective facts reflect the distortions of the radical right.
    worker
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  • This is reality
    Moderate
    It is also reality that your friend, George Bush, got us into a horrible depression. Salaries do not go up much during hard economic times unless you are a wealthy corporate executive.
    worker
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  • Better Off????
    Bud
    I'm a CSRS retiree.And am very thankful for the monthly pension deposit.Better off than 4 years ago?No way.CD rates today for a 5 year CD are about 2%.4 years ago,about 5%.Health premiums have increased 43% in 4 years for BCBS Basic self only.Gas has doubled from about $1.80 to $3.60.And the CPI-W formula for the annual COLA keeps changing to exclude certain items in an effort to keep the COLA down.I don't trust any politican regardless of party affiliation.Maryland Gov O'Malley recent statements made me want to toss my lunch.What a horse's rear end he was.The constant quibbling about non essential issues like Ryan's marathon or the Eastwood speech or Biden's gaffes just cloud any rational discussion of the real issues like jobs,the wars,etc.It just reinforces the congressional rules:1)get elected,2)get reelected,3)tell your voters with a smile you care about them and then take money from the highest paying lobbyists.
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  • It is a shame
    Moderate
    Good points, but that is what politicians of both parties do
    worker
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  • Who is to Blame
    Linda
    I read an article not long ago that was very interesting. It looked at blame for the current economic crisis and looked at who was to blame, they looked at Corporate America, the Banks, Congress, etc. But, in the long run discussed how American's want all the services and don't want to pay taxes......so who is to blame? Look in a mirror.
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  • Sounds like Linda is a George Carlin fan
    contrarian
    For some really funny videos look up Carlin on Youtube. It's worth it.
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  • I Am
    Linda
    I am actually a George Carlin fan, but the article I read was written by economists. The article is "The Truth About Who's Responsible For Our Massive Budget Deficit" by Henry Blodget reported in the Business Insider.
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  • Who is to Blame
    Dennis Retiree
    Linda, you hit the head on the nail. The American People deserve a huge amount of the blame. They want a Federal Government that spends 20-21% of GNP each year, but want to only pay 16-17% of GNP in taxes each year.
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  • I agree...
    Rob
    If we can get the 50% of wage earners who don't pay any federal income tax to pay their fair share then maybe we can solve our debt crisis. If people want a cradle to grave (womb to the tomb) deal from their gov't then they should pay their fair share.
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  • Get real Rob
    Moderate
    What is the fair share for those who cannot afford to buy food? Get real, the wealthy do not pay their fair share.
    worker
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  • Real math
    ben
    Bush added about $2.3 trillion to the national debt in 8 years. Obama added about $5.3 trillion in 4 years. So, obviously, Obama contributed significantly more to the debt. As to the Bush era tax cuts, the Chicago and Austrian schools of economics argue what is the point of diminishing returns rate for taxes -- at what level does the government collect less revenue, as the rates rise. Both schools believe its between 25 and 30 percent. Revenue collected for the 8 years under Bush was about $4.8 trillion more (in constant dollars), than the previous 8 years under Clinton. The same increases in revenue occurred after the Reagan, JFK and Collidge tax cuts.
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  • Whoosh....
    Rob
    That whoosh is the sound going over liberals heads as they read your post. Raising taxes actually lowers revenue? No matter what the facts show you'll never be able to convince a liberal on that one.
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  • Real math?
    Moderate
    And how much more did the wealthy get vs the rest of the country? During the Reagan years, the wealthy grew fat while the rest of us were worse off than before Reagan. What is your source for your stats of Bush v Clinton?
    worker
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  • Reply to Moderate
    ben
    www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
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  • Real math?
    Moderate
    Isn't the Chicago group a pretty conservative outfit? Also what is the constant used?
    worker
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