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  • Indeed
    tgn
    The Feds make a lifetime of mooching off the taxpayers.
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  • Life after Government
    Lifer
    For your information, federal employees are also taxpayers. And we don't make a lifetime of mooching off anyone. We work hard and abide by a Code of Conduct and Standards of Ethics that those of you in the private sector would never be able to do. That is why you are in the private sector. Anti-government rhetoric is usually provided by people that would cry like a little girl if they had their schools, fire fighters, police, postal service, and too many other government provided services to mention in this small space denied them. It's amazing how many Americans seem to be unaware that the people of the United States ARE the government. Go take a drive in the sunshine on your nice paved road and enjoy the freedoms that most of the rest of the world are fighting to obtain.
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  • Lifer
    Linda
    Well stated.
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  • Right!!
    Big Joe
    Lifer- You haven't even skimmed the top yet! Forget the Code of Conduct and Ethics..... How about a security clearance and polygraph.... How about annual asset reporting... Restriction of investments because you are a COTR.....I wouldn't trade any of it to go back to the private sector and trade what I do for the chase of the almighty dollar....
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  • tgn-you are clueless about government jobs
    Moderate
    Great response to tgn, the clueless, Linda, Lifer, and Big Joe. I cannot add anything better.-----Bud, I am glad you are enjoying retirement. The job is extremely stressful, but can be very challenging when the mandatory nonsense does not get in the way.
    worker
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  • Home by the beach
    contrarian
    Don't know how people afford this, other than dual high income. Most Feds can't afford it. I hear it's pretty cheap in Flyover country. I'll be lucky to get a house in Nebraska.
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  • "Home by the beach" commenter
    Jeremiah
    You'll find that not only is there a much lower cost of living in the so-called "flyover country," but also a much greater spirit of neighborliness, pure kindness, and tue patriotism than I ever saw when residing in the vicinity of Fantasyland-on-the-Potomac, a.k.a. Washington. If you want to see America at its best, go west, aging contrarian, go west to the more aptly named Heartland, as did I, if and when you finally escape from your ball-and-chain as one of Uncle's wage slaves. To quote Motel Six's Tom Bodette in another context: "we'll leave the light on for you."
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  • To Contrarian
    Linda
    The housing is cheaper in the fly over states for the most part. However, is some of the smaller rural areas, don't be matching airfairs, they can be horendeous. Cost of other products can also be higher as there is little to no competition. Not to mention a lot I purchase is mail order due to lack of availability. That said, I love my fly over state as it is beautiful in the summer and the winters keep the feint hearted away!
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  • Retirement
    Simon Bar Sinister
    Simon says: We have given the Company all of our younger years and deserve a good retirement. I am thankful that I will be able to retire soon and pay the bills. I do see a look of jealousy in some of the other workers that know I am leaving but they need to realize that everyone has to pay the price to get to the end of the game. I am thankful and find it almost too hard to believe that the end is near. For all of you that have already retired, bless you! For those that are still on your work journey just hang in there, the time goes by quickly.
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  • Good Old Days
    Linda
    Used to be having 35 years in and being under 55 was a good retirement. But, that was civil service when 30 years is full retirement and you are just waiting on age. In FERS, I will also have 30 years in before 55, but forget the early retirement. 30 years gets you 30% of you pay (not 80%), plus the SSS (maybe), not enough to reach a similiar take home pay to what I am making now. The TSP is good, but the big multiplier years are the last ones, so need to let that one ride for a while. Don't mind me, my older friends are all retiring and I am just jealous. But, then again I have friends who are older and haven't planned for retirement, so they will still be working when I retire hopefully at 62 or 63. At least being government you get a pension and some TSP whether you put in or not. And not to put in is not bright.
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  • You nailed it
    contrarian
    Linda: I'm exactly the same boat. We're not asking for sympathy but it's clear that we're not the big time winners, although we are winners. So we'll be giving repeatedly while those over 55 get fully protected. What the 99% try to obfuscate is that there are plenty of winners (read today's posts) that are living just fine by the beach, while the rest of us will pay for everybody else.
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  • Minor correction
    Moderate
    Just a correction Linda. 30 years under CSRS does not get you 80% of high 3. The formula is as follows: first 5 years receives a multiplier of 1 1/2% The next 5 years receives a multiplier of 1 3/4%. After 10 years the multiplier is 2%. You must then subtract out survivor benefit. Therefore, working 30 years gets you about 56 1/4% minus survivor benefit or a little over 50%. That is better than FERS by a long shot, but not 80%. I will have over 40 years in when I go (plus sick leave). I will get a little less than 70%. I did have the opportunity to convert to FERS, and am glad I did not do so. I was very suspicious when Reagan, an anti fed, offered it to us.
    worker
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  • Life After Government
    Carter Hired Fed
    There is life after the government but I'm told it takes a year to adjust to it. Even so, I still was outraged to hear that the pathetic .5% adjustment (minus .4% for increased retirement contributions was on hold (at best). It adds insult to injury to a much maligned and demoralized work force most of which are part of the shrinking middle class making well under $100,000 a year. (We used to joke that we wished our salary was $150,000 according to the tea party perception so we could then afford these pay freezes.) Finally, for the record, Congress acknowledged in 1990 there was a disparity between private sector and government pay and by 2002 (that was 10 years ago), all necessary adjustments would have been made. If this situation of a broken public promise had happened to any other work force, there would have been widespread public outrage. Federal employees had to sit back and repeatedly take one for the team.
    Carter Hired Fed
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