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  • Nutjobs
    RicknATL
    Now that the GOP and their corporate master have succeeded in gutting the middle class via salary/benefits cuts, they have set their sights on the last bastion of the middle class. The federal employees. They should be more concerned about those who have lost their jobs/benefits (and restoring them). Not taking away jobs/benefits from those who still have them. These guys are the epitome of right wing nutjobs.
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  • Nutjobs all right
    Rob
    How would you characterize a party that continues to ignore the dangers of spending $1 trillion more every year than it takes in? We are at a crossroads in this country. Are we going to continue to kick entitlement reform down the road or are we going to actually do something about it? Both parties agree we have to reform these programs. The problem is every time the GOP comes up with a plan the Dems race right out there and put the fear of God in people. We need leadership in this country. You may not like the cuts being proposed by Ryan and the GOP but what entitlement reforms are the Dems proposing? And to Contrarian, you think your 401K plan is yours? Remember, there's a leader out there who thinks everyone is entitled to a good retirement. Don't think for a second that your 401K plan is yours.
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  • "...spending $1 trillion more every year than it takes in"?
    FERS Fed
    But it was okay when George W. Bush and the aptly-named Dick "Deficits Don't Matter" Cheney were doing it? That was different, right? Or is that just more of the hypocrisy that oozes out every pore of right-wing conservatives? As for entitlement reform, President Obama put Medicare 'on the table' during last summer's debt negotiations and asked Republicans for increased taxes on the wealthy in return. Remember who blinked and walked away?
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  • hypocrisy and politicians
    Rob
    I guess democrats are 'not guilty' when it comes to hypocrisy. Please, every person running for office is guilty of that. The point is, we will never get to entitlement reform until people on the left stop making "entitlement reform" a bad word. Unfortunately the only way Obama can win re-election is if he's successful in scaring the various demographic groups into voting for him. He's not running on policy or ideas. He's running on fear tactics. It's sickening to watch.
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  • "...running on fear tactics"?
    FERS Fed
    The President doesn't need to run on fear tactics. We all now have first-hand experience with what happens when compassionate conservative Republicans are in charge. As for scaring various demographic groups, all they need to know is what Paul Ryan's budget does to Medicare in the name of 'entitlement reform', all the while adding ANOTHER $4 TRILLION to the national debt. 'Path to Prosperity'? Really? For who?
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  • Medi-scare Alert!!!!!!
    Rob
    That's the problem with the Democratic party. Outside the political arena they openly acknowledge the need to reform entitlements. However, this is an election year and their political careers are more important than saving entitlements for the future. Anyone with half a brain can see what the Dems are up to.
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  • "Anyone with half a brain can see what the Dems are up to"?
    FERS Fed
    Really? So, what do right-wing conservatives do?
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  • "Medi-scare"?
    FERS Fed
    Nope. The scary part is the ADDITIONAL $4 TRILLION that gets added to the national debt AFTER Paul Ryan's 'entitlement reform'.
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  • Actually, it wasn't okay
    contrarian
    But nobody listened to us.
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  • Fed Benefits
    contrarian
    As long as I get a 401K plan like Romney & Bain I'll be happy.
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  • Good!
    FrankJr
    Feds are grossly overpaid for their services, and when you factor in their benefits package, its borderline obscene. Face it, the federal workforce is generally under and unskilled, relies heavily on contractors because their own employees are useless or under performing, and would be fired or laid off quickly in the 'real' world. The fact that they are paid well above average for their job descriptions, and get benefits packages the private sector can only dream about, underlines how much we need a guy like Ryan to fix this problem before it brings the entire country down.
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  • Overpaid?
    The Original Joe S
    Where were the complainers all the years the Feds were UNDERPAID? The jealous LOSERS who were TOO STUPID to pass the Civil Service test complain that they can't get into the jobs to enjoy the benefits. Frank Jr says they are overpaid; where is the citation by competent authority for that prevarication? Benefits packages are PART OF THE DEAL Fed workers make when they agree to work for dumbbells installed for conspicuous minority-hood or other "two-wrongs-make-a-right" discrimination practices. Accepting LOWER salaries in exchange for PROMISED pensions and benefits was the deal. CONTRACTORS are hired by mandate from the worthless scumbags in the national legislature who pander to the cretinous rabble voters by saying that "the Federal workforce is shrinking!". What's NOT said is that the contractors usually make MORE MONEY than the civil servants who "oversee" them [but no longer can guide them; merely note and report for end-of-year compensation determination]. Another position from Herr Ryan is that the Feds contribute "only" 1.8 percent of salary to retirement. NOT MENTIONED is the 7.25 mandatory thievery of their salaries to the National Socialist Ponzi Scheme black hole, which will go TANGO UNIFORM in the not too distant future. Frank Jr. posits his slanderous and scurrilous accusations with no basis in reality. Poor Frank - couldn't get into the government so he bleats and whines like the typical jealous socialistic American who can't better himself, so wants to deprive another of what he has.
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  • Yes OVERPAID!
    FrankJr
    Sorry Joe but you are simply wrong. What exactly is the skillset of the average federal worker? Lets see, they can go to meetings, they can do paperwork, and they can enter things into the computer. So pretty much what your average person with a HS or community collage degree can do, who are likley making 25-40k a year. Yet a FED with those job skills will be making 75-100k in this area after the cost of living adjustment. Now take a look at your general senior sys admin type. In the private sector, they are making 75-100k a year, maybe a bit more if they manage a team. Well, those same jobs in the Fed workforce are making 125-140k a year. Now go out into the private sector and see what large companies, for instance consulting firms pay their Economists. In general, its considered a rather low end collage degree job, topping out at 75-85k. Well in the Fed workforce, they are making 150-175k a year! Ridiculous! I know all this because your salaries are public, as are your job descriptions. Its simply absurd that you are paid this well. Dont try to turn this into an insult contest, I could easily pass any test to get into Civil Servive. I graduated with honors from a top 10 engineering school and have a graduate degree from Wharton. I make above the hated 1% for this area and deservedly so since the company I helped form is now worth 8 figures. I simply do not feel like paying higher taxes so mediocre skilled people can live and retire like kings.
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  • Economics Lesson
    Catalyst
    Impressive credentials Frank, you must be worthy of your top salary. The debate about federal salaries won't be settled anytime soon, and any set of data can be used to support each side's argument. But consider Frank, your eight figure engineering company that you built...I assume in the DC metro area. Where does your revenue come from? Government contracts? Sub contracts? How many of your clients have any connection to federal spending? You see Frank, your company has done well (and may continue to do so) primarily due to the strength of this area's economy. Any way you play it, dollars received from your clients are influenced by federal spending. There is no true "private" company in this region. When you go and vote based on those beliefs, you may get what you wish for. You're probably at the same trough Frank, just a little ways down.
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  • "collage degree job", "Civil Servive"
    obscurechemist
    First of all, minus 5 points for your spelling errors. Second, many government jobs have no counterpart in the private, profit-taking, sector. That would include the job that I (now retired) had doing basic biological research and providing the private Big Pharma sector with exactly 100% of their intellectual raw materials absolutely free of charge to them, at taxpayers expense. Third, I am better educated and more accomplished that you will ever be, but not even closely as well compensated. Fourth, I am quite willing to pay higher tax rates to support the invaluable work being done for all of us by our civil servants. It is the best investment I have ever made.
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  • Give Frank a break!
    Catalyst
    Maybe he can do collages real well. Also, the "v" is right next to the "c"!
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  • "Economists...are making 150-175k a year! Ridiculous!"?
    FERS Fed
    You're right, Junior! What you say IS ridiculous, because you have no clue what you're talking about. ALL General Schedule federal jobs are pay-capped at $155,000. Today, there are 14 General Schedule 'economist' job vacancies advertised in USAJOBS, 6 of which are supervisory positions meaning that they also manage people (other economists), in addition to having education/skills/abilities in economic science. These 6 supervisory positions' average salary is $130,534. The average salary of the 8 non-supervisory positions is $82,709. Both are a far cry from your '150-175k a year' estimate. Is pulling numbers from where the sun never shines what passes for graduate analysis at Wharton these days?
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  • you are an idiot and don't know anything.
    suthernwmn
    How do you figure that? You are making a general assumption about nothing you know have any knowledge of. I am a federal govt employee and defintely not overpaid, in fact underpaid. Are you a govt employee? I am sure you aren't. What do you think the average GS7 or 9 make? Definitely not enough to raise a family on or just make it themselves. Think again before you open your mouth!! This isn't hurting the people making $150,000 a year, it is hurting the lower grades more than you can imagine. I hate stupid people!!
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  • Re: Frankie
    uwm
    It's too bad you're living in a delusional world. But you obviously lacked the credentials to get into the federal workforce and are now spouting sour grapes. The agency I work for will not hire anyone who does not have a master's degree. The days of getting on board with a bachelor's is over. Contractors are used because Reagan and the Bushes wanted to lower the number of feds in the workforce. They thought contractors were cheaper and to the uninformed public it looked like they were in fact downsizing the fed workforce. But the contracting agencies get paid the big bucks. And back in the late 90's early 2000's feds were leaving in droves to make big money in the private sector. Our agency lost quite a few people. So it might be best if you get your facts straight before posting nonsense.
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  • FrankJr beat me to the punch
    tgn
    Good is all I have to say and I couldn't agree more with Frank Jr. Only it's already bringing the country down. The city bankruptcies are only the beginning.
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  • TGN
    NormalDude
    What are you talking about? City bankruptcies largely come from allowing fire fighters and cops to retire after 20 years of service with as much as 80% of their income for life. Local politicians hosed their constituents for union money to allow this to happen. As a Federal employee, I get 1 percent of the average of my top 3 salary years times the number of years I work. So, if I worked 20 years, I'd get 20% of my salary per year in retirement. Far from a bloated payout.
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  • Nonfederal Pensions
    federalnewsobserver
    Exxon employees pay nothing towards their pensions. http://www.exxonmobilfamily.com/family-english/hr/suppinfo/spd/Pension/PensionEligibility.html But I guess Romney/Ryan want federal employees to be treated more like Walmart employees.
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