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  • Grounds to Fire (10 deadly Sins)
    deployed decoy
    "3. With respect to a taxpayer, taxpayer representative, or other employee of the Internal Revenue Service, the violation of any right under the Constitution of the United States. Additional termination conditions under established civil rights Title VI or VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964; Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972; the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967; the Age Discrimination Act of 1975; Section 501 or 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973; or Title I of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990." Correct me if I am wrong. But all federal employees as well as elected officials can be removed for violating any of the above, not just an IRS employee. Course many feds could also be removed for any problems with filing their taxes, because that then defines them as a security risk. Well unless you have diplomatic immunity like say the Secretary of the Treasury, and just 'forget' about all that earned and unearned income.
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  • Decoy
    Linda
    You are right, I believe, that the provision you have cited apply to all Gov Employees. At least as far as I know. However, the following may not be rules for all that work for the government, and they are termiation offenses. 1. Willful failure to obtain the requrie approval signatures on documents authorizing the seizure of the TP's home, etc. 2. Providing a false statement under oath with respect to a material metter involving a TP or Rep (Gee what Congressman or President has ever been fired for lieing under oath?) 3. The ones you listed 4. Falsifying or destroying documents - lets see, did Oliver retain his job? 5. Assault or battery. 6. Violations of the Internal Revenue Code - do you know how many in the Congressional Offices either don't file or pay their taxes? IRS employees get fired for that. Congressional aids do not. 7. Misuse of Provision of Code Section 6103 for the purpose of concealing from Congress. Lots of other agencies conceal from Congress, how many get fire? 8. Willful failure to file a tax return. See #6. 9. Will understatement of Federal Tax Liability (again see #6) 10. Threatening to audit a TP for the purpose of extacting personal gain or benefit. Well a lot other Government Employees can't really threaten an audit, but they can threaten other things. Would the employee get fired for it? Probably, but it is not mandatory..................So Decoy you are right, but not completely.
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  • Linda I agree
    deployed decoy
    I think the IRS can rate an employee at near failure just for not hitting +/- $100 on their federal tax liability at the end of the year. Not the least fire a fed for stuff that would not get that average management person in the beltway a naughty letter. That was my point. If any fed has a 'problem' with 4, 6, 8 or 9, fire them on the spot for nothing more than they no longer have sensitive access. That extends to many elected and appointed positions. I was just amazed when one former president kept his finger on the trigger after a blue dress thing, when anyone else in the NUC launch chain of command would have been removed. That guy heading up Treasury (IRS by default) who 'forgot' all that income, still on the job. Double standards...Yep
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  • To Linda
    Moderate
    There is one thing you did not correct. IRS employees WILL be fired for violating one of the 10 deadly sins unless the commissioner reduces the penalty. I am not familiar with other agency rules, but DD wrote that others CAN be fired. That is a big difference. IRS employees can be fired for other things as well. Believe me when I write that audits are very affected by the ten deadly sins.
    worker
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  • Morale
    contrarian
    Who's responsible for your morale? I wish I'd worked for Wal-Mart in the 80s or Google at the start up. I'd be feeling pretty good right now. Of course I could have picked GM at the bankruptcy and wound up unemployed at 40+ with kids (yeah that would stink). Right now everybody's getting pinched and Feds are willing to chip in their fair share. But the Auto analogy still fits: everyone got mad at the UAW for bleeding the auto companies, but management agreed to every one of those bloated contracts. So Feds' management are the executive and legislative branches. There is no leadership from DC right now, and that's what I find truly morale busting, for us and America.
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  • Typical right wing nonsense
    Moderate
    Feds do not share when prosperity is around so why should we chip in with the lousy Bush and the Republicans Depression.----Where did you get the idea that EVERYONE is mad at the UAW. The workers did not get paid $10 million a year to put out and design lousy cars and put them in bankruptcy. Management stopped the Saturn experiment and then the quality of that car dropped. The leadership in the executive branch is relatively good. Of course, the House leadership is pure garbage, but they are good at deceiving the public.
    worker
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  • Tony - you are right on!
    FederalEmployee
    Tony, I enjoyed reading your column. My first day at the IRS, nearly 25 years ago, is still a very vivid memory. My beginning salary was barely $17,000 - but I was so proud to have a "real job". I was 23 years old, and had graduated from college five months earlier. On my very first day, I was finger printed, photographed, and took the oath of office. I was also handed a $2,500 check to cover the expenses of the 7-week "IRS Phase I" training that was held 100 miles away. I remember how nervous I was when I started performing income tax examinations. There was so much to learn in terms of both tax law and procedures. We were taught both the 54 code and the 86 code as our first cases were 1984 and 1985 returns. During that first day, a seasoned employee showed us the wonders of the newly issued Zenith's - heavy, bulky portable computers that had no hard drive. We used the large floppy disks - one disk contained the Enable operating system. In order to boot up, the OS disk was inserted in one of the two slots. Management did not issue the Zeniths to the new agents for six months - ensuring that we got a good taste of doing examinations completely by hand. All research was done using the CCH hard copy books, along with a book case after book case of court cases, revenue rulings and revenue procedures. I worked hard and was promoted relatively quickly. When I was promoted to the GS 13 level, I thought that I had "arrived". At that time, making it to the Grade 13 Revenue Agent position truly meant something. I was always very passionate and enthusiastic about my work. I quickly grew tired of the inevitable negative comments people made upon learning that I was an IRS agent. Once I angrily barked to one such offender "Does your momma collect social security? Where the heck do think the money comes from?" Another time I said "Don't worry honey, they pay me far too much to waste my time on the likes of you". I learned to tell people that I was an accountant - with no further details. When the big shutdown occurred in 95, I was so upset and worried. I spent the entire time wringing my hands and worrying how I would buy food and pay the mortgage without my next pay check. When the 1997 IRS hearings occurred, I was deeply wounded. I had always thought that I did something very worthwhile and meaningful. However, the cruel, nasty hurtful comments made by Congress made it clear where I stood with them. The "10 Deadly Sins" followed soon after, and we all had training in Section 1203 of the 97 Restructuring Act. I knew that the pendulum would swing in the opposite direction as soon as the economy tanked. I predicted 5 years - I was off by several years but it did indeed happen. I suffered through DOS II right around that same time. We were sucked up under Boston and we soon learned that were were just a bunch of hicks from the backwoods. The big IRS restructuring "stood up" in 2000. Instead of a leaner, flatter IRS, we became extremely stove-piped, with more layers of management and more newly created executive positions. I was still very passionate and enthusiastic. My manager and territory manager always treated me very well. Then Congress started in - again - assailing Federal employees, freezing our pay, and threatening to change the rules on us regarding our retirement. We learned that we are overpaid, and our retirement plan is far too generous. After all, many private sector large companies have done away with pension plans, so why should us lowly, meddling Feds have such benefits. No one has asked the real question - why have all these private sector companies canned the pensions - perhaps for the same reasons they have enriched the economies of China and India and other cheap-labor countries. When I was a wee little agent, I noticed that a few of the older employees appeared unhappy and jaded. I vowed to never become like that. Lately it has been an uphill battle to maintain a positive attitude. I always thought that I could and would make a difference. I threw my heart and soul into my work. It was a real eye opener when I realized that there were so many roadblocks that regardless of what I did, I would never make a difference. That realization took a real toll on me. As Tony points out in his guest column, my passion, enthusiasm and joy is being sucked out of me. I still have 8 years until I can retire. I am trying to be happy and positive, but right now it is difficult. PS - I am on annual leave and writing this on my own time.
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  • Great columns
    Moderate
    Great writing to both you and Tony. IRS employees have not been treated well. I am well past retirement age and now have sufficient funds to leave the government. I will leave next year, but still want to work full time as I am not ready to retire.
    worker
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  • Hey Mod...
    X-taxman
    I hope you keep posting here after retirement. Otherwise I'd really miss your bee ess!
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  • AMEN! Amen I say to you!
    MDBBALL02
    You "voiced" what I would say is the sentiment of all Feds right now--Where is the door? I have about 5.5 years left to go and have been writing to all my Congressmen (and woman) Thank God for Barbara Mikulksi and Ben Cardon, huh? They are nearly the only ones who Get that the Federal Government Employee needs to be spoken up for!) The thing that I also write to the White House about routinely is this...When the then-Senator Obama spoke at the Democratic National Convention before the previous election, he got it. He talked at great length about the Good that the Government does. Then when he ran for the office of the President of the United States, he promised to "make the Federal Government a cool place to work again. To continue luring the best and brightest to the ranks." HIS WORDS! Ever since, it seems he has forgotten that, and his speachwriter and Chief of Staff need to remind him quickly. I certainly agree we Feds understand the need to pitch in, and no one grumbled too loud when our COLAs were taken away for the past 2 years. We are Americas of the tallest order! We were grateful to have jobs in a rough economy, and we "Pitched in" $60 BILLION collectively thru our 2 year COLA elimination. But when one looks at the threats of continued freezes on pay and elimitation of COLAs for 1, 2, or more years, and the nightly attacks on the news by the Republican party and the Tea Party on our retirement, staffing levels, etc. one has to ask, what about John Q. Public my fellow Americans? What has ANY other American done to reduce the deficit in this country for the past 10 years? Besides our sacrifice and the Military's Service overseas, no other Americans have done ANYTHING significant for this country to move it out of the mess that 8 years of George Bush created, and decades of tax breaks to buy votes. The till is short now. People (Yes this means Congress) needs to put America first, and do the right thing for a change. Instead of looking for ways to appease the masses and bash the government, and lower taxes yet again (are you serious???) they need to start thinking about demanding EVERY American participate in paying down the debt. It is so sad when you see Tea Party candidate talking about Health Care and old folks demanding the Government stay out of their health care, and they are ALL on Medicare! Although they claim to be Christians, Reps & Tea Party folks will be the ultimate downfall of this nation---Burn your Medicare cards and your Social Security cards if you don't want the Government's help! (You don't see that happending do you?) Most American are really idiots about what their Government does for them. THAT needs to change too!
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  • This just broke
    deployed decoy
    A group of disgruntled former federal employees (the Supreme Court), as a matter of the last act of a Democracy government in the former USA. Has declared the entire US Congress as domestic enemies of the state. Militias (as directed by Governors of four former US States) have already taken over strategic defense locations and have B1 bombers enroute to Washington DC... One can dream...
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  • Bravo
    pdillm
    Of all the columns I've read over the years, this has to be one of the most accurate, insightful posts I have ever read....and I'm not even IRS! The one mindset change I've made is I'm not counting on the pension. More than likely, when I retire in 16 years then pension that will be there, if it all, will be nothing like what we have today. I'm putting my eggs in the TSP and personal savings basket and hoping for the best. Once you get past the point that no one has your back and at any point in time you are expendable, you are able to put in an honest 8 hour day and take the remaining 3-4 hours that you used to donate for free and put that towards a part time job that will actually afford you the ability to retire....
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