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  • The naked civil servant
    Tom A.
    If I remember correctly, with the exception of select intelligence agencies, the Washington Post actually had a link somewhere on it's Federal Page where anyone could search by last name and find the employing agency, grade and position title. From there, obtaining the pay amount from the public OPM tables is easy. The point is, if this information is in the public domain and, legally, is public information, there is no reason NOT to publish it. The great majority of federal employees are paid fairly for the work they do. As in any bureaucratic organization, public or private, there is always a small number of sub-components (agencies) or persons who manage to abuse the system. But overall, in my 30 years direct experience the system works. There is no harm in printing the information if someone can find it in the public domain.
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  • Federal Salary information for 2011 is accessible online at
    CauseyFan
    This website, among many others: http://php.app.com/fed_employees11/search.php Take a look, then consider the issue.
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  • Naked civil servant
    Awshuks!
    Reply to CauseyFan- I typed the above noted web address and inputted my own name (not illegal I guess) and lo and behold what popped up was my salary for last year and all my particulars as to where I worked, my job title, my grade, what will the big guys think of next? This is an obscene invasion of my privacy as I don't work in the private sector where it is illegal to discuss your salary with fellow ee's and it is may be grounds for dismisssal, but bcs I'm a civil servant, my everything is exposed on the internet for potential stalkers, bill collectors, exe's filing divorce motions, or lawyers looking for public information for nuisance lawsuits, people looking to steal your identity, etc (I can go on and on) can get this stuff for free! Watch out Big Brother already exists and I'm not talking about F**ceb**k that's another discussion for another forum- and since there is no law that I know of that prevents this information being disemminated it's pretty bad.-Awshuks
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  • Naked civil servant
    El Fed
    I guess I'm lucky. My info does not show up. Must work for a "stealth" agency.
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  • Naked civil servant
    Awshuks!
    Reply to CauseyFan- I typed the above noted web address and inputted my own name (not illegal I guess) and lo and behold what popped up was my salary for last year and all my particulars as to where I worked, my job title, my grade, what will the big guys think of next? This is an obscene invasion of my privacy as I don't work in the private sector where it is illegal to discuss your salary with fellow ee's and it is may be grounds for dismisssal, but bcs I'm a civil servant, my everything is exposed on the internet for potential stalkers, bill collectors, exe's filing divorce motions, or lawyers looking for public information for nuisance lawsuits, people looking to steal your identity, etc (I can go on and on) can get this stuff for free! Watch out Big Brother already exists and I'm not talking about F**ceb**k that's another discussion for another forum- and since there is no law that I know of that prevents this information being disemminated it's pretty bad.-Awshuks
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  • Amazing
    Sparrowhawk
    I am amazed at how someone would think that my being a public employee means I have no rights concering my personal information. Lets take this one step further based on being a public employee. How about releasing my Social Security Number, my home address, what prescriptions I fill and what physicians I visit and the actual medical records, my driver's license, my car plates and registration and on and on. We could also include my family information. If they can request payroll information for individuals, the rest can be fair game. How about the military are they subject to same Freedom of Information Act rules. Since they are public employees, they have no expectation of privacy. The fact is I am a public servant, but I still retain my rights as an American Citizen. I did not surrender my rights when I took my oath of office. So as an American Citizen, I expect, no demand that my personal information including my actual salary remain personal. Releasing this information is not serving the public good and no good can come from this. Signed Fed up
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  • Generalities vs specifics
    will4567
    I don't have a problem with people knowing the grade I am. That gives a salary range. Giving out my pay to the penny seems petty. Divulging bonuses also seems to be a great way to create a lot of useless internal politics.
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  • The naked civil servant
    treediddy
    This is actually very old news. When I worked for the U.S. Forest Service in New Hampshire more than 30 years ago, each year the Manchester Union Leader would publish a listing of all federal employees in the state and their salary. The information wasn't always the most accurate, such as publishing the full-year equivalent salary for someone who was only on a 13/13 appointment. I haven't lived in the state for 28 years, but for all I know the newspaper is still doing it. It never bothered me--as a brand new employee fresh out of graduate school I was quite proud of my $10,500 GS-5 salary!
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