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  • Gee Whiz Elmer Fudd
    Hector
    ................."many of us have been listed as having "high school" educations only in our personnel records. We're not sure how widespread this misinformation has been".................So can we assume that the person(s) that put the wrong information in your personnel files are overpaid? Not based on the paramenters of his/her generic job classification but rather on their ignorance?
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  • Fed vs private industry
    Tuttle1
    What the articles on Federal vs private industry pay don't mention is that we are nation of sterotypes, bias and perception. I've worked in Federal IT for 25+ years and my perception is that the contractor IT workers that I work with that have the same amount of years experience make a lot more money than I do. I have a friend who has been an IT contractor for 25+ years and he refers to the Fed government as Club Fed - it's a bunch of lazy, unqualified, overpaid workers. My point is that when you see a headline such as "Federal employees owe $3.4 billion in back taxes", your perception and bias kick in. I have never owed a dime in back taxes, and there's no context in the headline as to what non-Federal employees owe in back taxes. Here's another headline - "border agents amass $1.4B in overtime as arrests of illegals decline". I work 40+ hours almost every week because of my workload and the nature of IT work, yet I don't receive any overtime pay. A headline that says "Most federal employees don't receive overtime pay" probably wouldn't receive much readership. Finally, "Federal workers make more for the same job". Obviously, that headline means that all Federal employees are overpaid. There is no context or actual one-to-one comparisons with Federal vs private sector employees needed.
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  • Don't Get Me Started...
    X-taxman
    ...on the poor underpaid IT people. Every week when I checked the COL (Career Opportunities Listing) I saw the same thing. 95 percent of the GS (or equivalent) 14 or 15 were IT positions, lots of them, all over the country. Really made us wonder why, in a large federal building, you were lucky to find an IT support person who could even map a network printer to your computer. IT is definitely an area that someone ought to take a long close look at in terms of budget.
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  • A bit of distortion?
    Moderate
    First, you write about the 14's and 15's in IT. Then you write about an IT support person. How about finding out the grade level of the support person before you make comments like that. I doubt they are anywhere near a 14.
    worker
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  • None At All
    X-taxman
    Let me try to dumb it down for you, dude. I was addressing the IT function as a whole. My point is, it would stand to reason that a function that gets the bulk of the hiring dollars should be able to provide adequate basic services to its end users. Further dumbed down, more of those hiring dollars should go to front line employee development instead of hiring more useless IT execs or analysts. Hope that helps!
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  • IT and response to Xtaxman
    Moderate
    Maybe if you wrote with intelligence and clarity instead of one with a sixth grade education you would be more respected. Your comments previous to mine are as clear as mud and as intelligent as a 6th grader.------ If you leave out the dumb and dude you may or may not have a point. Please inform everyone how many 14's and 15's there are in IT and what their functions are. Also please compare that with the number of IT people that are out on the floor. Also, please tell us the journeyman level of the IT people. You brought this up. Give us the facts.-----In support of your position, I have not recently been happy with the skills of the IT person who came out to our office. I question that person's competence. However, I limit my comments to the person.
    worker
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  • Perhaps one thing missing from the comparisions
    wisenekt
    is the ability of private sector employees to get benefits like 20% bonuses and stock options. Such benefits such as stock options may come across as a one time low benefit but unless the stock is cashed in, the dividends and stock growth make for a nice payment later. Will we ever have a true apples to apples comparison? No, because the federal government has one way of doing things but the private sector has one way for each position and person. Trying to compare those apples will just leave you with a mush that no one will want to eat.
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  • Measure Once, Cut Twice
    NOMOREHYPOCRITES
    Hypocricy is the semblace of having publicly approved or desirable attitudes, beliefs, principles, that one does not actually posess. I am a constituent of Rep. Chaffetz and a federal supervisor. My employess expressed to me a question on whether Mr. Chaffetz practiced what he preached. Has he provided his staff with raises in the last two years? After two email requests with the above question to him, no answer has been provided. So, I searched a publicly available website and discovered Mr. Chaffetz has indeed raised his staff salaries over the last years (appearing around 10%)while at the same time championing a federal freeze and even pay and benefit reductions. Benefit and pay reductions might be necessary to us all even though we cannot personally afford more cuts, in order to save our country. But, and this is a very big but, the hypocricy of our Representatives and Senators in their current efforts of singling feds out is something I cannot put up with and will work to unelect those Pharisees.
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  • This is excellent!
    FERS Fed
    Please provide the address of that "publicly available website" so that this can be thoroughly researched and pushed to be publicized. Oh, the hypocrisy!
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