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  • If Penn State were a federal agency
    deployed decoy
    Nothing would have happened. By the time the person figured out if said agency had a federal EEOC office the 45 day limit (in this case did) passed. If they reached out to the federal EEOC office (as I have) over 60 days after receiving the formal complaint that federal office lost the Certified Mail formal complaint and told me to contact an agency official that according to the DOD website has no legal authority to process federal EEOC complaints, again the 45 day limit to file passed. Then as we all know said person filing the complaint would be fired by now anyway, because not a sole agency follows federal whistle blowers protection laws.
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  • Sexual harassment vs. Child Abuse – Caution
    JBsPoint2Ponder
    While I agree with raising concern on the seriousness and significance of sexual harassment, the linkage to the Penn State child abuse is troubling. Sexual harassment is different than sexual assault. Sexual assault of an adult is different that sexual assault of a child. Using media attention on the Penn State’s child sexual assault to elevate hostile work environment trivializes the tragedy of the Penn State children.
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  • Sexual assault and alleged coverup
    Moderate
    The article does not really address the penn State issue. The issue deals with alleged criminal acts on the part of an assistant coach and some vague issue with Paterno. i say vague because I do not know what is expect of him per the job. Is he required by the job to report it and to whom? He claims to have reported it to his superior. If that is all he is supposed to do, per the rules, then why was he fired? If he was required to report it to the police, then why didn't he do so? the facts are very unclear as regarding Paterno. I would like penn State to claify the facts and rules to alleviate the mystery.
    worker
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  • You need clarification on the rules? WOW
    Rob
    I don't think you'll find anything in the Penn State "rules" that tell an employee what to do if they witness a sexual assault or are informed that another employee has committed sexual assault. You call the police. DUH!
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  • To rob
    Moderate
    I am glad you went duh. It is a reflection on your mental state. Paterno did not witness a sexual assault. Someone else made the allegations to Paterno. Since Paterno was not a witness, I doubt that he could testify as it is hearsay. So, again, did he follow the rules? if so, why was he fired?
    worker
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  • Legal Requirements
    Linda
    From what I understand the legal requirements in Pennsyvania and with most companies is to report criminal activities up the chain of command. Several Pharmacists, for example, have been fired for stopping a robber or shop lifter in their stores. (I think this has more to do with the liability of the company to the employee if the employee is hurt in such actons) Paterno passed on a vague explanation of a disturbing scene in the shower that he received to his superiors. They talked to the Grad Student (McCleary) and then did nothing much. By the way, I understand the Business Manager (can't remember his name) is also in charge of Campus Police. So in effect, the incident was reported to the police. The Grad Student and show incident occured in 2002. An earlier incident occured in 1998 by a mother and no charges were filed. Child Molestation (of which much can occur with no physical evidence)is very tough to prosicuit because many times the only witness is a child who is tramatized and scared and thinks he did something to deserve what happened to him. So doesn't make a good witness and many times the parents don't want to put the child through the additional trauma of testifying. So these cases are very tough to deal with. But, at 28 years old McCleary should have don't something to protect the child, not just report it the next day to Coash Paterno. But, who knows, maybe he was molested as a child and maybe by the same alleged molester? That can change how you think. I think a lot of things should have been done differently. Some of the action taken were criminal, some were not, just not good judgement or not knowing enough. What do you think the police would do if you went to them with a 3rd hand allegation? Nothing, that's what. Maybe they would talk to the alleged witness if you could give them a name, maybe not. It is a his word against anothers. Unless the child testifies (and they don't even know who this child is) it is a tough trial with no victem.
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  • Seriously??
    X-taxman
    Dude! So you're saying that if it wasn't expressly written in Paterno's contract with Penn State that he call the police if he witnessed a heinous act of sexual abuse committed against a young child, it was okay for him NOT to?? I wonder if you would think differently if it were YOUR 12 year old boy that was violated and no one called the police.
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  • to X-taxman
    Moderate
    I will give you the same answer I gave to rob, but I will be more diplomatic. Paterno did not witness the alleged assault. Another party made the allegation to Paterno. Therefore, paterno did the right thing by passing the information up the line. Note that Paterno got hearsay allegations and could not be used as a witness. Again, the rules of the University dictate what should be done.
    worker
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  • no "mystery," grievous failure to do what was called for
    pensioner
    Not at all hard to understand. Passing along to one's superior a report that a child was raped in a school shower room by someone with ties to the school may be enough to satisfy the law's minimal requirements, but it falls very far short of satisfying minimal moral standards. What is "mysterious" about this or any other aspects of this other than it could involve all those it did and go on for so along?
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  • to pensioner
    Moderate
    Yes it is hard to understand. Paterno did the right thing by passing the allegation to his manager. procedures should be followed. An investigation by the University with the police should have been launched. however, if paterno went to the police, not as a valid witness, and the allegation was false, then what are the consequences?
    worker
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  • What is Sexual Harrasment?
    Linda
    Not defined, but if you object to what someone says to you or how they touch you, you need to do so verbally or in writting for harrassment to start. An off color joke is not harrassment unless someone objects. Most people don't go there anymore because they are afraid of the repercussions and I don't blame them.
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  • Can it be any way but a male harrassing a female?
    Putt-Putt
    I had a male co-worker (I'll call Jack) who was being harrassed by a female co-worker (I'll call Jill). Jill wore short skirts and loose fitting tops. Jill would "conveniently" drop files and bend over to pick them up right outside of Jack's office door. When she needed to "talk" with Jack in his office she wouldn't sit, but would rather lean over the desk. She made no secret that she wanted to date Jack. Jack reported this to our manager (a male), who in turn went with him to the EEO counselor. What were they told???? If Jack made a formal complaint then he would be accused of sexual harrassment because, get this, HE LOOKED! The manager was counseled to not talk to Jill about her dress or actions because he too would be accused of sexual harrassment.
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  • Wow
    Moderate
    There has to be more to this than the facts given. If not, then perhaps another EEO counselor is needed. If nothing else, then the counselor should record the meeting with the results and tell jack to talk to the lady to tell her of his objections. Maybe Jack must go on record of expressing his objections, but Jack must be advised on how to handle the issue by a competent counselor.
    worker
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