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  • Pay, Pension, Puppies and Debt Limit
    Richard S.
    Finally, the elephant in the room is being exposed. What has all the talk about the cost of Federal pay and benefits really been about? "There is now talk of outsourcing more jobs now done by federal workers." Who benefits when this happens? The millionaires that a certain political party don't want to contribute to reduce the Federal debt only to those same millionaire politicians via political donations. The cost to the Government will not go down it will be going sideways.
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  • The House passed a budget
    contrarian
    I don't know what's in it for Fed Emps, but the Senate is the blockage. OF course the lack of Senate action is making it easy for the Pres. All I know, is there are a lot of people not doing their jobs right now.
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  • The house passed garbage
    Moderate
    I know that it is no good for fed workers, but the House Republicans are the blockage. Obama and the Dems want a budget that will not destroy things for the middle class and the impoverished. Obama and the Senate want the deficit limit raised so we do not stop government operations. The House and the Republicans will block these items and throw a temper tantrum and falsely accuse the Democrats of all sorts of things unless they get their way. And, of course there will be no budget and no increase in the deficit.------------Oh, and contrarian, the Republicans passed a so called budget that they knew was going nowhere. Please3 tell the full truth instead of nonsense. I can write the slanted stuff too.
    worker
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  • You are doing a fine job liberal
    1st generation American
    Your post are the typical leftist shilling. Both parties are eqaully to blame. That being said we can not spend ourselves rich. I have seen no good ideas from the Dems either. Raising taxes is like giving a drunk another drink. No matter how much money we waste on entitlement programs the left wants more.
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  • To 1st gen
    Moderate
    Actually your post is pure nonsense. The big increase in spending is due to the Dems attempts to get us out of the Bush depression and its effects. For example, the aid to the car companies was to keep jobs for American workers. For example, the medical insurance for those who cannot afford it is to give them decent medical care. How many of these people were created by the Bush depression. Look at the increase in joblessness. Add to that those not included in the unemployment stats. Add to that those who have jobs that do not give medical insurance. of course, the wealthy you does not give a *%$@ about them.------------The wealthy got a disproportionate break from your friends George Bush and the radical right. Let them give some of the money back so that social security and medicare people do not get the stick. Let the wealthy contribute their share to the reduction of the deficit.
    worker
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  • More of the same liberal
    1st generation American
    What you post is pure liberal rubbish! Again the Dems are going to spend the country rich. Fat chance. I never said Bush was my friend. Those are your words. As soon as the the 40% of Americans that don't pay taxes start paying SOMETHING then we can talk. Plus the top 1% already pays MORE than it's fair share of the tax burden. Oh and the depression was started by Clinton when he got the banks to give loans to people who were marginal as renters let alone owners. Laslty if our elected officails on both side of the aisle were serious about creating jobs they would be vigerously deporting all the illigals. Ever notice how the number of illegals is close to the number of unemployeed Americans. Post facts not your liberal agenda. Some of us have an education and can see what is really going on.
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  • More of the selfish radical right
    Moderate
    What you say is pure nonsense. Again, the Dems are trying to get us out of the depression your friend George Bush put us in. Guess the depression is worse than we thought. It is worse than the recessions we have had.------------Again, you cannot have your pound of flesh from those who do not have the money to pay federal income taxes.Plus, the top 1% do not pay their fair share as they got huge tax breaks from their friend, George Bush. Oh, and the depression was started by George Bush and his cronies by not supervising the garbage investments of these bankers. I doubt that Clinton did much as you describe. Also George could have put a stop to this nonsense instead of letting it accelerate out of control.-----------------I will agree with you about the illegals. They should be deported if found without harrassing the legals. And I am glad you said both sides. That makes you much more creditable in that area.------Maybe you should post facts instead of one sided radical right nonsense and facts that only support your position. You would make more sense.----------Finally, use your education to think critically instead of giving us your right wing propaganda.
    worker
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  • You can't argue with facts...
    NOVAJacket
    The top 1 percent pays 37 percent of all income taxes. What is their "fair share"? If you think raising their tax rates means you will get more money from them, you are kidding yourself. They will simply adjust their compensation. These people are not pawns... The top 50 percent pays 96 percent of all income taxes. That means the bottom 50 percent pays 4 percent. What is their "fair share"? Why don't you use your education and quit spouting left wing propoganda. Incentive drives everything. If your fiscal and tax policy is to punish success and reward failure and mediocrity, that is what you will get.
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  • You can't argue with facts...
    NOVAJacket
    The top 1 percent pays 37 percent of all income taxes. What is their "fair share"? If you think raising their tax rates means you will get more money from them, you are kidding yourself. They will simply adjust their compensation. These people are not pawns... The top 50 percent pays 96 percent of all income taxes. That means the bottom 50 percent pays 4 percent. What is their "fair share"? Why don't you use your education and quit spouting left wing propoganda. Incentive drives everything. If your fiscal and tax policy is to punish success and reward failure and mediocrity, that is what you will get.
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  • 1st Generation American
    ITGEEK
    I believe you're right about illegals. 1) We want to buy cheap products..we need to hire illegals. 2) GOP's philosophy: Maximize Profit at all expense: Believe it or not they do hire illegals to keep the cost down :P 3) When there is a public outcry for competing resources, turn around and bring up illegals in this country. As far as the 1% paying more tax. It's true dollar wise they pay more but percentage wise they pay less then the typical middle class or poor. Keep the lobbyist money flowing into Washington to keep those loopholes open. After all your GOP buddies in the Supreme Court uncapped spendings by rich corporations to an unlimited amount. Talk about fairness.......How do you say it, money talks bull*** walks..
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  • Raising taxes
    Linbob
    @1st generation American - when someone gives you somethingon loan, do you expect to get it back? If a business gives a holiday discount, do you expect that discount months after the holiday? The Bush tax cuts were temporary (look it up - it means "not permanent"). Everyone knew they were temporary and due to expire in 2010. Well, they were exended instead, due to toxic politics. I don't consider the expiration of temporary tax cuts as a raise in taxes - it's just returning to normal. Spending (on two wars that were never part of the budgetary process) and a decreasein revenue (which took our revenue down to where it was in the 1950's) has created this horiible mess. I, for one, am sick and tired of the BS between conservatives and liberals - Republicans and Democrats - Wall street, bankers, unions, and whoever else is standing in the way. Where are the Americans, the people who want America to move forward, not back to a pre-FDR era? Congress needs to do what is best for America, not for the 2012 campaign. That means stop the nonsense and make a deal - negotiate (which means everyone loses something and gains something else). Congress should go without pay until a budget deal is made. Creating the US budget is the ONLY thing that the Constitution asks of them. If they can't do their jobs, they shouldn't be paid.
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  • CBO couldn't even score Pres's budget
    contrarian
    So what would you call that?
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  • I call it irrelevant
    Linbob
    The President proposes a budget - its a starting point for discussion. Congress creates the budget, at least in theory and in the Constitution. Congress holds the purse strings. They are responsible, and their inability to compromise is taking America to the endge of a cliff. Congress is guilty of malfeasance and they should all be impeached. That is not going to happen, so withhold their pay. Maybe if they don't get paid for while, they will begin to understand how the rest of us are feeling.
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  • Millionaires
    Nestorsky
    "There is now talk of outsourcing more jobs now done by federal workers." Who benefits when this happens? The millionaires that a certain political party don't want to contribute to reduce the Federal debt only to those same millionaire politicians via political donations. Oh Please!!! Yes, it's highly likely that someone was once poor or middle class and decided to build a company and hire workers. Because of good management practices and hiring skilled workers, the company thrived and hired more workers. Now the company is big enough to compete for these "outsourced" jobs, providing skilled workers to perform their duties more efficiently (or not). Yes, the CEO of the company will benefit, but it's a gamble. He's dependent on his workers to be successful if he wants to get the contract renewed a few years later. However, if he is successful, who else benefits? The workers!!! AND THEY ARE NOT MILLIONAIRES!!! BTW, CEO's also happen to be Democrats. Ever hear of Jeffrey Imelt, Ted Turner, or George Soros?
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  • To Nestorsky
    Moderate
    First the federal workers do not benefit by the outsourcing whether or not they are hired by the contractor. Their pay and benefits will be much less. And their skills could be much less if hired from the outside.---------The wealthy do benefit as they get their profits and huge salaries, much more than the federal management people. And yes, they do not give a $%&*@ about the deficit if it will help them get these jobs.-----Please do not give us the nonsense about the wealthy humble beginnings. When they start the company they are far from humble. They are large donors trying to get a piece of the pie. And do not tell me about their efficiencies. The IRS tried to contract out some collection functions more than once. It was a miserable failure.----------I wonder how much of a gamble CEO's are taking. Is he really successful or the whole thing political? By the way, are you a federal worker or a contractor? Just curious. I do not care if these contractors are dems or GOP.
    worker
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  • Why are some programs untouchable?
    Nestorsky
    In some ways I can underdstand the Republicans not wanting to raise taxes, and Obama not wanting to cut (or eliminate) Obamacare. What I don't understand is why a high speed rail system is off the negotiating table. AmTrack is government run and loses money every year. Why? Because it's too expensive and enough people don't ride the train for it to turn a profit. Yet, according to President Obama in his state of the union adress, "We need high speed rail to compete with the Chinese". Nothing should be off the negotiating table, especially programs that serve little, if any, practical purpose.
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  • To Nestorsky
    Moderate
    You said nothing should be off the table especially if they serve little purpose. Yet you can understand the tax and healthcare for those who cannot afford it issues. But I will comment on the train issues.------------The objective of the trains is to encourage more people to use trains rather than use cars. This reduces the traffic tie ups. This reduces the use of oil. This reduces air pollution which could reduce illnesses caused by air pollution. Thus the country's medical expenses would be reduced. I cannot say whether the train subsidy should be reduced or increased, but I can say that there should be a subsidy donme in a smart way in order to get the maximum bang for the buck.
    worker
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  • Missing the point ...
    O2B XFed
    It is interesting that the main "anti-Fed" points being discussed are change to 5 years hi-3 and change in COLA calculation. Although they may save big dollars in the long run, neither reduces spending significantly for years. If saving money today is the issue because the debt is so out of hand, why are they not talking about shutting down "non-essential" services completely for a period of time and furloughing employees and or contractors involved in the activity.
    Finally ExFed
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  • To Ex Fed
    Moderate
    I notice you are an ex fed presumably collecting a nice pension. So you want to shift the burden on to the people with families who are working. Note also the difficulties in getting a job now. And also note that what you think is non essential may be considered essential by others.
    worker
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  • Puppies, etc.
    Jeremiah
    The tone of most of the prior comments on this and earlier articles dealing with the current fiscal crisis is discouraging, reflecting what's going on at the national level. Both sides apparently prefer to indulge in the pleasure (?) of hurling ad hominem arguments at their ideological opponents, rather than engaging in a serious assessment of how we can best deal with both the long and short term consequences of our present deep seated problems. At most, the "true blue" partisans on both sides give lip service to the need for painful sacrifices, but then effectively go on to make clear that it's the OTHER side that's being expected to absorb all the pain, whether in the form of increased taxes or deep spending cuts. At the end of the (fast approaching) day, however, it's inevitable that a mix of both will be needed if any compromise package is to be passed - with accompanying kicking and screaming to impress constituents no doubt on both sides of the aisle - by Congress and signed by an equally grumpy President. As a Fed myself, I also believe that our compensation and benefits package is going to be put on a severe diet, inevitably because of the prevailing view - without getting into the never-ending debate as to its correctness - that we "have it made" vis-a-vis those outside of the charmed Federal circle. Rightly or wrongly, the perceived "let the good times roll" status enjoyed by us is definitely going to cease "rolling," and all the sturm und drang to the contrary is not going to change that.
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  • You got that right
    contrarian
    It's all about who gets stuck with the blame instead of doing their jobs.
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  • To Jeremiah
    Moderate
    Up to the point of the federal workers, I think your points are very valid. Both sides will have to give in order to get the job done. However, the deficit limit will have to be raised no matter what. Otherwise the US credibility will be very questioned.------------ The reason why I disagree with you about federal workers is because we have sacrificed since Reagan came into office (and possibly even before that)Reagan really put Us behind the private sector. It has never been made up. The pay Comparability Act of 1990 was never implemented in spite of the tax cuts by George Bush and the surpluses under Clinton. There was always an emergency. Therefore, give backs by feds is not appropriate.-----------------I do not have much more time as a fed worker so anything new would probably not affect me.
    worker
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