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  • Civilian verses DoD jobs
    ketrout
    The Senators are making a huge mistake by saying that it is alright to expand jobs in the federal government but not on the outside! Our federal government has gotten way too big and we need to DOWNSIZE it to better serve the American people!
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  • You can't be serious
    StarTrek1701
    "Downsize to better serve the American people"? How is a smaller workforce going to be able to address the issues and demands of the American public in an effective and timely manner? And if you do downsize, who is going to do all of the extra work? Are you going to hire private contractors? Contractors that have not the foggiest idea what to do and have not been properly screened and have no accountability regarding security issues? Contractors who will send what work they can to cheaper foreign markets in an effort to maximize their bottom line. It has further been shown in the majority of situations that private contractors cannot do the work as efficiently or as cost effectively as the Federal workforce. Contractors hire the cheapest labor they can. That means people that have neither the skills or education to do the job; any job. As to expanding the workforce, an arbitrary expansion makes no sense. However, if the current workforce is too small to handle the workload, a workload that is demanded by the public to be dealt with, then, yes...it needs to be expanded. Finally, this should not just be a DoD issue but for all agencies government wide.
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  • The other side of the coin!
    Time Bandit
    I used to be a contractor working for the Navy for 10 years, 5 of those years were in DC working for PMS394 and later for PMS450. If you don't know them, look them up. Your reference to contractors: "That means people that have neither the skills or education to do the job; any job." Not having skills, that I will partly agree to. Most of the young grads my company hired and I dealt with didn't have a lick of common sense nor skills, they were more interested in after work happy hours and socializing during work hours then doing their job. They had no clue about Excel, Access nor laid eyes on Power Point, heck one girl had no clue how to cut and paste. Lack of Education- WRONG! Take me for instance, I don't have a degree but that doesn't mean I didn't know how to do my job and do it well. I was the go to person when people in the Program Office had no clue where to look or a shipbuilder needed something from the Program Office, I was the yes man when asked if I could stay late to help out. "Contractors that have not the foggiest idea what to do and have not been properly screened and have no accountability regarding security issues?" WRONG! My company did twice a year security briefings, I would not have been custodian of 8 classified safes if my company didn't feel I was up to doing the job to protect and monitor what was in those containers. "It has further been shown in the majority of situations that private contractors cannot do the work as efficiently or as cost effectively as the Federal workforce." WRONG! The gov't workforce can only work 40 hour weeks, do you see gov't employees coming into work on Saturdays and Sundays, if necessary, to get the job done? Who is at their job working when there is a gov't holiday? Sure isn't the gov't workforce, most contractors do more work than the gov't does because we are not restricted by union rules. In the 5 years of my employment in DC, I only called in sick a total of 3 days. I loved my job working for the Navy, unfortunately I was laid off due to lack of funding. I had a great sense of pride when I did my job, can't say that about gov't workers. When I went to the Navy Yard, I respected every uniform I passed "Good Morning/Afternoon Sir/Mame" When I looked at the faces of those gov't workers going to work, not one smile and looking like death was staring them in the face. I heard many calling the Yard, a Pit, a Hell Hole, hating their jobs. Most excuses I got for why they stay "the money & benefits". If the gov't offered me a job to go and work for the Navy, I'd consider it. To me, it's not about the money or the benefits, it was because I was doing something I enjoyed doing. I enjoyed my career as a contractor, I don't regret one thing. However, the only thing I do miss, not working for the Navy.
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  • Actually, yes
    Zoopy
    "The gov't workforce can only work 40 hour weeks, do you see gov't employees coming into work on Saturdays and Sundays, if necessary, to get the job done?" Yes, I see it often.
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  • Could not agree more
    BeanerECMO
    In fact, eliminate all open reqs. It's the fed gov, for the most part, that have few technical/engineering skills and fewer acquisition skills no matter how long and how often they attend workshops, attend Defense Acquisition University/Federal Acquisition Institute etc. The federal government has virtually no incentive other than personal pride to do an 'adequate' job and there is certainly no fear of ever being 'fired' for incompetence unless maybe (again I say - maybe) on an ACAT I program. There is no real return on investment assessment (ROI) done (although there are huge machinations done by the government bean counters to 'show' ROI) by the feds except to protect their pet rocks; i.e., their program - whether it serves the warfighter or not. Contrary to the 'allegations' of hiring the cheapest they can; contractors have to meet or exceed the requirments specified in every RFP. It's the government acquisition executive and/or his reps to ensure those requirements are met. It is apparent from the writings of one of the commenters that they do not understand what their responsibilities are. Additionally, it is prohibited by every DoD RFP with which I have ever been associated (both as a DOD Acquisition Manager and as a private contractor program manager) that neither foreign nationals nor dual citizenship personnel are allowed to perform on the contract either within or outside the US. Also, the security requirements, including the aforementioned issues, have more stringency placed on the contractors than on the CORs who are supposed to oversee the performance under the contract requirements. And, it is clear that if the contractors could not perform, then the contract is terminated for cause; and those have been few and far between. It's been shown, more often than not, that the CORs have fallen down in the performance of their duties no matter how hard they have tried to shift the blame. Charlie Nemfakos where are you when we need you so badly. Charlie was a tough old geezer, but he was a fair one.
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  • Shut your pie hole
    Zoopy
    BeanerECMO, I normally just ignore your B.S. But your absurd overgeneralizations and mischaracterizations about civil servants is erally starting to tick me off. Not because it's offensive, but because based on my experience, it's grossly inaccurate. I don't know what hell-hole corner of the government you work(ed) in, but your extrapolations about other federal workers are absurd.
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  • Point Proven
    BeanerECMO
    Your response just further supports what I wrote.
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  • Freeze is right
    O2B XFed
    I was a Fed for 37 years and now I'm a blood sucking contractor. That said, this should not be an "us" verus "them" discussion. If the nation is ever going to get out from under the $14 Trillion debt it should be cut "us" AND "them". DoD needs to determine the right amount of civilian services it needs and than figure the best way to obtain them.
    Finally ExFed
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