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  • Pay Cuts and Security Clearances
    Celtic Wolf
    The new ideas and proposals on the table, that will impact federal employees, should be addressed to new hires first. That is, allow folks entering federal service to know up front their future is dismal due to financial situation of America. As for existing Federal Employees, we are already frozen at our current salary - similar to many in the private sector. What many non-federal employees forget is that we do contribute, and at very high costs, to our medical and retirement. The media and the Congress needs to start communicating accurately the benefits and 'costs' of being a federal employee. We are held to higher standards, we are intimidated to work longer hours to get that performance bonus that is dwindling, and we are living in fear daily of internal auditors, external review and Congressional Oversight that can cost us our performance bonus and even our jobs. It is much safer to be a private sector employee. I am very confused on what the focus on us truly is for. My opinion is federal employee bashing and proposals are a distraction ploy.
    Celtic Wolf
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  • Grass not much greener
    Zoopy
    I've worked in the private sector as much as in the government sector, and I must disagree with your point about working long, unpaid hours in the hope of a yearly bonus. That dynamic is also very present in the private sector; it's not just a federal thing. Also, at least in my agency, all overtime is paid as such, and I've never encountered pressure to work overtime without compensation.
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  • overtime?
    Moderate
    In my agency we do not get overtime unless it is involuntary and we insist. We get comp tiome or credit hours. If we insist on overtime we get it at grade 10 step 1 times one and a half. That might be straight time for us.-----Managers regularly work overtime without compensation or they do not get the work done.
    worker
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  • I think...
    JHunt
    What Wolfe says is true. I'm a fed but have been on the other side of the fence and did my time in the Army. Right now as a Fed if you want anykind of bonus you realllly have to put in the extra work. That might mean coming in on the weekend or taking work home. We are (at least in my office) under staffed. On top of that we have to lose 2 before we can advertise a job. As far as Beni's i can tell you my medical insurance is no less than many civi's. I do not have an expensive plan and I'm paying about $180 a pay period. The media and the civialian work force loves to tell the public how good we have it. At least in the civilian sector you get paid for overtime. My OT pay rate is the same as my regular hourly rate.
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  • Try the IRS
    StarTrek1701
    That is not the case for the IRS where certain departments during various peak periods have mandatory overtime. The compensation is of little benefit if you have demands that require you to be elsewhere while performing that extra hour or two. People have actually been written-up for not doing overtime. CRAZY!
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  • Doesn't strike me as crazy
    Zoopy
    I don't think it's unreasonable for IRS to require OT in tax season. The work is necessarily a boom/bust kind of thing, and it's in line with what corporate tax accountants have to put up with. --- Not saying I'd enjoy it, I'm just saying it doesn't seem capricious or unreasonable.
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  • Overtime
    Moderate
    It would be reasonable if they paid overtime at 1 1/2 of your hourly wage. Also, it is boom/bust for some people, but not for others.---------I may be mistaken, but I believe they are required to solicit for overtime based on seniority within the IRS.
    worker
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  • Agreed
    1st generation American
    I agree with Celtic Wolf. We should have a third tier of Federal employee’s. CSRS, FERS and SCREWED. When I joined the Government over 20years ago I signed an agreement and swore an oath. Changing the rules after the game started is NOT the American way. I knew FERS was not near as good as CSRS. But good enough for my needs and I planned and saved accordingly. I have volunteered and served on three separate tours in Iraq and done what is asked of me as an employee. If the rules are changed on me now I for one will try to start a class action suit against the Governemnt. Don’t know where it will go. But if we can pay millions to bankers in the form of bonuses because we had “an agreement”. Then what about the agreement the Government has with me when I decided to leave private industry and become a public servant? I’m proud of what I do to try and save our taxpayer money. But I’m disgusted with all of our elected officials who shill about how terrible we are. VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!! Oh and good luck getting youger folks to join. They can all see what a bunch of lazy loser's we all are :)
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  • It IS the American way, for some
    Zoopy
    Thank you for your service to our country, and for valuing honor and duty. But just as honorable duty is a long tradition for many servicemembers, dishonor and self-servitude is a long tradition for many other Americans, politicians notwithstanding. --- I think the best you can say is that changing the rules after hte start of the game is not the American way as envisoned by men and women of honor.
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  • It's a long list
    contrarian
    Let's see: 5% pay cuts, 10% tax increases, gas at $4/gallon, plus mortgage rates are 4% yet I can't refi because property values have plunged 40% due to DC/Wall Street mortgage crisis. You add it all up, those of us who are working have taken huge losses. Why ANYBODY in DC thinks they deserve to be reelected is a mystery to me.
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  • Celtic Wolf
    LindaH
    If Fed Employees were able to STRIKE and shut the Gov down , Congress wouldn't be running thier stupid mouth. Once again, these idiotic people are not in charge of nothing. Everything thet plan, plot and try to do dirty underhanded will FAIL anyway.
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  • Other Federal Workers with Security Clearances
    Radar Tech
    The Air Traffic Control system (both controllers and techs) have security clearances, too. Imagine if a sudden 5% FERS clawback (coupled with a pay freeze and increased FEHB costs) starts causing mortgage delinquencies, missed credit card payments, etc. and all those clearances become jeopardized. . Border Patrol, NSA, TSA, FBI, CIA, DoD, etc. all those clearances become suspect because of sudden financial disruptions caused by a pay freeze, FERS clawback, and increasing FEHB costs...all due to the surprise actions by congress, not the employees behavior. . Then, once the employees adjust to their new financial situation, all those security clearances will have to be reviewed and renewed at a cost of over $10,000 per. . Stupid is as stupid does, Mama always said...
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  • DOD doesnt use Credit Scores
    lotusxidriver
    They review the credit bureau reports provided by OPM or whatever agency is doing the investigation. Your credit score isnt included with them. Depending on the CAF or agency adjudicating your case the amount of your delinquent debt may vary before the agency purposes to deny/revoke your security clearance or eligibility ot occupy a sensitive position. Even if you are not in a sensitive position HPD-12 may come into play.
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  • pay cuts and security clearances
    disgusted fed who hopes to hold out until retirement
    Kudos to all the military (and OTHER federal employees, including myself) who go the extra mile to get the job done. It's always amazing to me how the media's strings can be pulled to show the overpaid, lazy government employees, including teachers, police and fire, when, in fact, it's a smokescreen to distract the public at large. This smokescreen keeps the media off the wealthy and the corporations and their attempts to keep all they have. Continuing to overburden the middle-class and offer no jobs to the unemployed, including the recent college graduates, means that no one will be paying any taxes at all, even for the many wars out there. The 2-class society is on its way, and we are due for our own "spring," which I hear from Millennials.
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  • OT? Bonus?
    Linda
    I also work for the IRS and I get no overtime. Just credit hours and hints from the manager for "love time". As far as the Bonus, I work hard because I do, not because of a Bonus that might be $500 after taxes. Don't waste my time. I usually take the Award Leave, not enough money to worry about, and I like my time off. ............My husband works in the private sector. He gets better insurance coverage than I do (lower premiums), although they don't cover much of the spouse, so we each have their own. He doesn't get overtime as he is management and does put in more hours than I do and has less time off all together. (although I don't get to choose my holidays and he gets leave and the minor holidays they are open)...He has gotten more and higher raises than I have in the last few years.......His retirement is similiar to mine. A defined pension, 403(b) and Social Security.......No bonus, but other's in the private sector get $10,000 - $30,000 in bonuses or more. Sometimes 30% or better of the salary. However, they are subject to performance and numbers. Since the government can't look at individuals numbers at the IRS anymore, such as dollars per hour collected or assessed, there is not much to rate except subjective stuff. Not good when looking at paying big dollar bonuses. There is better and worse in the private sector compared to the government, depending upon job and area. Same as usual.
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  • Cuts being forced upon us
    Ale
    If Congress was on the same system as the rest of us (feds) we would not be threatened with cuts. Does anybody know what it would take to get them off thier high pedestal, having their own pension/retirement system, their own health benifit system and put them on Social Security and the health benefit system with the rest of us? Hmmm. If so, they might not want to be a politician. If anyone has an answer, I would love to know
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  • Yeah sure
    LindaH
    DON'T VOTE!
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  • Ale
    Linda
    Congress does have the same retirement system as us. However, most of them put the max into the TSP (benefit of being a milionaire). They are on the same Health Insurance Program as us. Anyone elected after 12-31-1983 is on FERS and pays Social Security just like us. The difference is that more than 50% of Congress are millionaires. I will go out on a limb here with no established facts and say that isn't true of Federal Employees. I can understand freezing our pay, don't like it, but understand it. I don't think they should be able to adjust anyone's pension that is currently working. If they want to do that for new hires, so be it. Good luck hiring anyone.
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  • Linda
    1st generation American
    Exactly my point. Make a new system for the new rules. Also, like you said good luck getting anyone hired.
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