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  • TYPICAL
    FED UP IRS FERS FED
    As Basil Fawlty would say for all you Britcom fans out there, "TYPICAL". I will retire when I am eligible in 7 years no matter if it is high 3 or high 13. I don't give a darn at this point. All these years my buddies were bragging that they had better jobs than me. Now all of a sudden, I have a better job than them. It's one thing to get beat up by the blowhard politians who don't know their arses from their elbows but to start taking shots from so called friends who believe everything they read...TYPICAL!!!!! Am I overpaid? Am I to blame for every bad thing happening in the Government? NO & a bigger NO. Stop the fraud, waste, corruption & stupidity and this World would be a better place. I make just under $117,000 in the NYC metro area. I deal with CFO's, heads of Tax Departments and the like at giant Corps. Gee, I wonder who makes more...me or my opposite numbers. Stop the abuse now. As an aside, I pay more money in taxes than some of the Giant Corps that I deal with. Tell me if that is fair. The tax system stinks. Kill the middle class that pays for the bulk of the things in this country and you kill the country. Really smart dumb arses!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • I agree with you
    Moderate
    I agree with you. I think there are some entities with a political agenda that is anti fed worker. I do not make as much as you, but I do not have your technical skills. However, I have been eligible to retire and expect to do so within the next few years. I will get another job on the outside that will easily make up the difference between my salary and pension. I am aware of the withholding differences also.
    worker
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  • FED UP IRS
    MichaelF
    What you fail to realize is that you do make more money than the guy flipping hamburgers at McDonald's and the guy greeting shoppers at K-Mart. Who do you think is more important to the mindless Congress? It is indeed unfortunate that our elected officials have no idea what is going on in the world, let alone what is going on in government.
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  • Its started
    deployed decoy
    DOD has apparently blocked Mikes site. I can only hit it now from home... 50% plus millionaires in congress no wonder they dont want to increase taxes on the rich, well a Million is not rich anyway. We held a bake sale in Kuwait last week to buy mission critical network hardware. But, Navy seized it to rearm the subs now with only weapons of mass destruction armament since they fired all the conventional stuff at Libya and they take priority, you know, over land forces, given they are the last chance we have to blow the planet out of orbit if needed. Wait Congress is making sure it comes to this now. Heard a BBC spot over the weekend that the only reason we are involved with Libya is oil. They are so wrong; it is the gold we need to buy the rest of the rocket the bake sale did not cover. We are selling weapons to Saudi and Bahrain, who we now say are not supporting human rights. Opps those strike aircraft in Saudi are better than stuff we have in the fight now. Then what about the sea and air blockade of Israel, who uses, yes, US fighters to blow the entire villages away with people with sticks and rocks on the ground. I give. I have 18 months until MRA, (currently 36 years of service) and really, dont think I want to be an American that much longer. Thinking of cashing in silver as it hit $38 Oz today and going to Bangladesh and hiring 20 people for $50 a month to be my private indentured servants. The US taught me this is OK here in the Middle East. Heck the sitting US President signed a waiver for the slave states of Saudi and Kuwait this year to allow oil to flow to Americans. When I was told to resign federal service when I tried to report human trafficking, a formal condition of employment in this slave state, I almost cried. Then all American jobs but burger flippers and CEOs sent to 4th world countries where folks stand in line to work 60 hours a week for $150 a month for those American slave owner CEOs and elected officials, that cant afford an American nanny because they only work 3 days a week. No wonder they want feds out of the office, the last witnesses to this travesty of justice called America. Figure China will set things straight when they take over as the USA goes into default to the world.
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  • TYPICAL DEFINATELY!!
    LindaL
    You so right, it is the middle class people who makes this country and pays all the taxes. I don't make nearly as much as you and what littel I do make, I am killed in paying taxes.----These people who got voted in are "the" most selfish I have ever seen. Fed employees, don't kidd yourself in thinking that Congress doesn't know how much we make, they do. Congress knows that we are not overpaid too. This is about the private sector wanting business and the bought and paid for greedy arse Congress trying to turn the country against us as if we are the enemy in return give our jobs to the private sector--- This is big business and a lot of big businesses(plus a lot of Congress members) stand to make a lot more money if this goes through.----I for one is sick and tired of the BS. Congress want to say that we are bloated, I say they are bloated, overpaid, shabby and need to be cut down to size and a lot of them need to go sit in a corner and shut up!---- They can sit back and play with our lives because they are millionaires and it does not effect them if the Gov shutdown or not. The Republicans need to bring their arse down off this glass horse they are riding because everything isn't going to go their way and lets not forget these ignorant Democrats too.--- People are still out of jobs and the economy is still not that great, food, heatlhcare and gas steady going up and a lot of us can barely feed our families, but we make to much. what a JOKE!
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  • Pay question
    contrarian
    What I'd really like to know is how many Fed Emps only get paid the base GS salary? I know there are so many people with premiums, it's incredible, but I've never seen any facts. E.g. law enforcement, OT, shift premiums, medical, computer people all get extra pay. As one of the few people who work for the amount on the OPM chart (actually it's a tad less due to the weird math for number of days in a year) with no extra benefits. Some years I've gotten awards, but most years there's nothing extra. How many Feds can say that? For my agency it's not unusual. But I understand that at some places in other agencies (to be unnamed) everyone gets big awards and OT.
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  • To contrarian
    Moderate
    You work for overtime. Nothing extra there. The awards for most of us are about 2% of base pay. Not material there.Law enforcement gets a premium due to the hazards of their job. They also work extra hours.
    worker
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  • Me too...
    HRLady
    I'm only paid my GS salary and overtime is monitored, requested in advance, and often denied. More to the point, not everyone who gets paid on the GS scale is up in the 12, 13, 14, 15 pay grades. It is easy to forget about those support staff – the 5, 6, and 7. My mother-in-law raised her family on a GS-7 salary, in a single income home. My grandfather retired on a GS-9 salary. Take a look at what those individuals make; it's not so lucrative. And I can assure you; they worked hard for the salary they got. In my agency, better than half of the employees making under a GS-11 salary have graduate degrees, new mortgages, and/or brand new families. We had a Harvard graduate being paid a GS-9 salary; she left to chase the money because we wouldn't or couldn't provide her more. While I support some major cuts in Washington, I don't think that hurting the Federal workforce is the way to go. We work hard for the money we get. Sure, there are some who do not. I've seen examples of GS-13s who spend more time filing and shredding paper than actually working. However, those are few and far between when compared to the employees who show up early, stay late, and work through their lunches. I wish they would stop trying to kick the good man while he's down...
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  • Overtime
    Revenooer
    I have worked over some in the past. I found I actually made LESS money when on overtime. After 40 hours my agency paid me a lower GS rate than my regular GS rate. Not much incentive there.
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  • Overtime
    Moderate
    Since you are probably exempt from certain statutes and are probably a high 12 or 13 your overtime would be GS 10 step 1 times 1 1/2. That is probably less than your hourly pay.
    worker
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  • read the CFR and FLSA
    deployed decoy
    Unless you are a supervisor - doing boss work, your OT is paid at 1.5 your salary. This has been establised years ago. BLM took this to OPM and OPM ruled that even a GS14 under an emergency assignment or something as non supervisory as me at GS11 tagging that person to go on a routine field assignment resulted in full OT for that GS14. I know a class action is going on now, including BLM as apparentlty they forgot that OPM order back circa 1997. Course in that settlement our GS13 boss who stood behind us and pushed past our HR folks that kicked it back several times ended up short changed. He had claimed about 800 hours in Comp Time over the 7 year period OPM ordered the agency to go back and correct the probelm, so he didnt get a cent. The rest of us averaged about $5k with interest then applied. Now that class action is against many agencies, DOD included as they like all HR folks cant read simple English.
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  • Overtime
    Moderate
    It is possible that your job designation allows you to be paid at true time and one half. It is also true that my job is exempot from that rule. They will pay me at grade 10 step one times one and one half. The exception was when I was detailed to a defferent function and volunteered to work overtime. I was paid at time and one half times more salary, as an 11, at that time. This was in 2002 or 2003.
    worker
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  • Overtime
    El Fed
    That's why the few times I work overtime, I ask for comp-time. That way I get paid @ the same rate. To contrarian, is not "extra pay", you work for it.
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  • Comp time
    Moderate
    (1) I have no use for comp time. I get 26 A/L days per year and always have use or lose to use up by the end of the year. (2) My agency does not like to give comp time either. I already have 24 credit hours that I will cash in when I retire.
    worker
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  • Pay Question
    Linda
    Contrarian, I was one of those who got paid base pay. Working in Montana, we are RUS as it is a low income state (pay per capita is 49 out of 50). I took the medical with my husband as his employer paid more of it until this year. This year we both went single on insurance as it was cheaper and I need to get my 5 years in before that is lost! I get no commuting allowances and there are no buses in my town. No shift premiums as I work regular hours, no over time - not allowed, only credit hours. No extra pay for being a CPA although it is not required for my position. Right now I get the government paid portion of my medical, but that is about it. I didn't get that prior to this year.............So there are some of us out there.
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  • Looking for Good News
    LS
    Isn't there any good news out there about Government or Federal employees? This column is just too depressing to read anymore.
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  • Yes!
    FedWorkerbee
    I am involved in hiring new employees for my Agency, and I can tell you that they are the brightest, hardest working young people I have ever seen. They are top students, and many are from top schools, and they are hitting the pavement running. They take no time at all to jump in and start working hard. Take away government employee benefits and stellar recruitment programs, though, and you will see the quality in new graduates seeking federal employment go away.
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  • New Hires
    Linda
    Now you are hiring the brightest and best. What do you think will happen when there is no more defined benefit plan, salaries are frozen and the economy recovers? The kids now jump jobs like crazy because they only get SSA and 401(k) plans that are very transferable. There is nothing to encourage retention. The defined benefit plan of getting 1% for every year worked means the longer you work the higher your retirement. That helps retention. If that wasn't there, and governement salaries are back in the basement try keeping anyone. The cost of hiring goes up, the cost of training goes up. My job takes about 5 years for someone to get comfortable at it. The new kids don't last that long.
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  • New Hires
    Linda
    Now you are hiring the brightest and best. What do you think will happen when there is no more defined benefit plan, salaries are frozen and the economy recovers? The kids now jump jobs like crazy because they only get SSA and 401(k) plans that are very transferable. There is nothing to encourage retention. The defined benefit plan of getting 1% for every year worked means the longer you work the higher your retirement. That helps retention. If that wasn't there, and governement salaries are back in the basement try keeping anyone. The cost of hiring goes up, the cost of training goes up. My job takes about 5 years for someone to get comfortable at it. The new kids don't last that long.
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  • That's what I meant
    FedWorkerbee
    That's why I said, "Take away government employee benefits and stellar recruitment programs, though, and you will see the quality in new graduates seeking federal employment go away." Precisely what I meant. We ARE currently hiring the best and the brightest, and it took the last 20 years of upgrading our recruitment practices and new employee and professional development programs in order to attract these people. Most of them do stay with our agency for their full careers. A few do move on to contract companies. Overall, though, my agency has very low attrition. Most people in professional jobs in my agency have advanced degrees -- many have a couple of masters degrees, and many have doctorates. We will not be able to continue to have that success in both recruitment and retention if the incentives such as benefits and decent (although not exceptional!) pay are stripped down. People in my agency could easily get jobs in private sector but have chosen to work for government because they like public service/are patriotic, and they like the benefit and leave plans (a trade-off for higher pay). Many of them do work long hours of uncompensated overtime, and many have to travel overseas and domestically often (although for many, this is one of the attractions to the work). It's ALWAYS been how it is -- the trade-off between government and private sector has been pay versus benefits and family time. However, they've drastically reduced the government benefits from what they were pre-1985 (when there was a real pension plan) and have cut the amount the government covers for our health plans. Meanwhile, pay has gone up some, but only enough to make it so that people can afford to pay the rent in the DC area, which is extremely expensive. It has already gotten stripped down as much as it can be without losing good current employees and high quality, future new recruits. The new government workplace scenario requires lots of specialists from foreign language speakers/interpreters/translators, researchers/librarians, geographic specialists, foreign affairs analysts, and IT people to engineers, lawyers, and doctors. You simply CANNOT attract competent people in these fields unless you have a highly professional atmosphere to offer potential employees, along with decent benefits, professional development programs, and other incentives. There is an entire economy of consultants built up around the government, as well, which will go bust if government is demoralized and/or cut drastically. Waste and duplication should be eliminated, but disincentives to work for the government in the form of reducing benefits and pay (thus affecting the ability to hire good people) will only have a domino effect and stagnate the entire DC-area economy.
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  • An Indicator
    Little Professor
    When I was in college, I quickly learned a lesson that is true in the real world as well as the college campus--organizations live and die by "legacies"--the children of former students (or employees) who in turn want to attend (or work for) their parents' college (or employer) because of the wonderful experience their parents had while in attendance (or employed). I did an informal poll in my office a week ago--and absolutely no one would recommend that their child go into government service. And interestingly enough, as bad as this economy is, we have started to see folks turn down offers because they have had second thoughts about moving to D.C. to take a (as one applicant put it) "risky" federal job. For those of us left, this has become an exercise is disillusionment. Many of us (whether Congress believes it or not) took our jobs because we loved our country, only to now discover our country doesn't love us back....
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  • Enough already
    Sparrowhawk
    I am a retired naval officer with 28 years of service and after retirement I worked in the private sector for 10 years with a hefty salary, quarterly and annual bonuses, along with a 401k with matching funds. I took a job with the government and took a pay cut, so I could quit working weekends and nights. Do I miss the challenge of my private sector job, yes I do, but after spending 28 years deploying and then 10 years traveling for the private sector, I decided I wanted to spend more time at home. So the pay and benefits were not the attraction, spending more time with my family was my motivation.
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