After 37 years at the Department of Veterans Affairs, including 20 years in the Senior Executive Service, Frederick Malphurs has seen a lot. He's written about his experience in the book My Life in the VA: Lessons in Leadership," and he joined me today to talk about it. We discussed his experience at VA, and how the VA's health care system might serve as a template or a reference in the greater health care reform discussion happening in the country.

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